Helenius is going to dominate Peter...

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  1. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Yeah, those awesome roids that made him technically superior to John Ruiz (and gave him the body of a Greek god...the Greek god of donuts). Yeah, no, it was the roids anyway. Roids improve ring IQ and without them, Toney would've been a hapless mess of a middleweight. You're right. I was being silly. He's just an old fat middleweight who wasn't a top heavyweight and hadn't achieved anything from Middleweight to Heavyweight. Excuse my silliness, PLEASE.

    I didn't say anything about your pick for winner of the fight, so an RH win wouldn't "show me" or whatever.
     
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  2. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    You are just plain being willfully stupid. Steriods are expenise, illegal, and health threatening. Atheletes take them because they are massively performance enhancing. Toney would have been killed against Ruiz if not for steroids. To deny this is just plain sad.
     
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  3. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    April Fool?
     
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  4. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In my opinion this fight is purely up to Helenius. If he's able to keep his back away from ropes and dictate the pace he should win with relative ease.

    Tough fight to predict but with a gun point I'd pick Sam by KO.

    Is there a poll..?
     
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  5. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Whatever.

    Again, steroids are remarkablely expensive, threatening to health in dozens of major ways, and illegal. The idea that Toney was caught taking steroids but they in no way effected the outcome of his fights is stupid. Its not wrong- its stupid.
     
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  6. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nope. The poll will be on Saturday. This is a prediction. If I am worng, then I wil apologize to Peter on this very thread.
     
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  7. Lefthooktommy

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    It will probably be on espn2. I don't think Showtime or HBO will pay money for this fight.
     
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  8. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Who's arguing they're not expensive? Who's arguing they're not unhealthy? Who's arguing they can't alter the outcome of fights? Not me. Who's arguing John Ruiz would have destroyed James Toney under any circumstance? You. Foolish.

    It's like saying without roids ODLH would've been destroyed by Vargas-...Oh, wait. Vargas was the one on roids and outclassed by the better fighter and was destroyed himself. So, yeah, they make a difference, but they don't make you a more intelligent boxer. There is a difference in class between Ruiz and Toney and Ruiz doesn't have the skill or power to "destroy" James Toney. Your head is up your ass or you're having a laugh. Don't know which, don't care. My only point was Toney was a solid name heavyweight of the time of the Peter fight and simply dismissing him as a middleweight is a sign of silliness. You were being silly, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for your silliness, seriously sorry, so there, so be it, silly.
     
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  9. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nope.

    The benefit of the doubt is with the fighter who did not cheat. You think differrntly beacause you are a silly fan boy.

    Steroids are expensive, dangerous to the health, and illegal. Fighters only do them because of the massive advantage that they give in a fight. Without them, Toney would have never been a successful heavy. To say differently is stupid.

    Toney would have never been able to apply his "skill" without the physcial advantages of steroids.
     
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  10. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    It's like talking to rain man. What time is Judge Wapner on, Cachibatches? Tell me forty times, please. It doesn't matter how relevant it is at all.
     
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  11. Cachibatches

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    You have said nothing of subastance here. Steroids are expensive, illegal, and a massive health risk. Toney took them because without them he could not compete.
     
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  12. chitownfightfan

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    ^^^^^ This^^^^^:deal
     
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  13. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    Definitely, I definitely get my boxer shorts at K-Mart. I'm an excellent driver. Definitely.
     
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  14. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    A garbage response by a garbage poster.

    Toney spent a significant amount of money, risked damage to his kidneys and liver, did damage his hormone level (as we are finding out now), and risked jail time because steroids gave him a massive, unfair advantage.

    You do not understand this because you are stupid.
     
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  15. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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