Helenius is horrible but might make this a good fight thou!

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  1. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Helenius is a talented heavyweight:

    6"6' 1/2 - check!
    250 pounds - check!
    1 punch KO power - check!
     
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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    None of that equals talent. Height/weight is not talent and being able to punch hard is not a talent either without skills behind it . This guy is as overatted as ive seen. If whyte really wants a wilder fight i expect a stoppage .
     
  3. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Height and weight is talent. Reaction time: talent. Twitch Micke fibers: talent.

    Every physical attribute that gives you an edge over your competition is talents..

    Especially In heavyweight when there's no upper weight limit. Size matters even more.

    Best example: When Gerald Washington beated Eddie Chambers because of his talents alone.
     
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  4. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    WAR HELENIUS! Crash this party, put a dent on Whyte's resume and screw over Hearn's plans!
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whyte will KO him with a brutal body shot is my prediction in four,not often I do this but hey I like Whyte.
     
  6. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Talent is defined by skill as in natural ability to something. The only current fighter who can claim his size is a talent is Miller.
    No one else can carry weight like him.
    But talents are speed, reaction time and things of that nature.
     
  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Wouldn't be to shocked if Helenius won, Whyte is the most overrated heavyweight going around. Gets a wrap for winning one round against AJ and IMO Chisora beat him.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Helenius used to be one hell of a fighter with unreal power!!! If he can get anywhere near what he was he will be extremely dangerous, this fight should tell us something about him. Is he finally back after his severe injury?
     
  9. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    The joke will be on you because IF Helenius does manage to get the win he will be the next WBC mandatory for sure...

    Whyte should win this one, he is a bit too tough mentally in the ring and has a lot more to lose.. Helenius is a shell of his former self...
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I think Whyte is very overrated on here. However, Helenius at his peak was one of if not the most overrated fighter in my time on this forum. People still have man-love for him. Whyte should beat him down.
     
  11. Blackclouds

    Blackclouds Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    should be a good fight. Helenius is decent with his offense, it's just he lacks everything else. He should have never been hyped to be anything. Whyte should get a ko in this one.
     
  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Height is not talent its just height, it has no substance its a attribute. That's like calling Lurch from the Adams Family talented bc he can ring a noose hung from the ceiling that other ppl cant reach....that's not talent bc any 7 foot tall guy can do what he did..( now if you called Lurch talented bc he can play the piano, well that's talent) .see what I did there?


    Weight is not Talent either,thats like someone telling the heaviest guy walking down the street how he became so good? Makes no sense at all.

    Washington beat Chambers bc of his ability to use his length ,he actually didn't show much talent at all in that fight.He also gave Wilder a little trouble for the same reason and that was his length not his fighting ability ,hes still a average skilled guy with decent jab but hes not talented.
     
  13. Max Thunder

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    David Allen said Helenius is the best fighter he's ever sparred with for the first 3-4 rounds but gasses easily, Allen has sparred with a lot of top fighters! Helenius trained really hard for the Chisora rematch this year and is over 20 pounds lighter than he used to be, he can now last longer! Duhaupas also said Helenius' power is on Wilder's level, Whyte is going down!!!!!!!
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Whyte should gut out a win here. Helenius might look good for a few rounds and even rock Whyte but he'll gas out and get stopped or become a punching bag by around the mid point.

    I used to be a fan of Hellboy but he's lost almost everything that he once had going for him.
     
  15. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    How would the joke be on me? Whyte losing (which I personally think Helenius has no chance in hell) just makes him more of a joke.

    Wilder would still get torn to pieces if he fought a Duhaupus leftover, even if he had a win over Whyte.

    Whyte lost to Chisora ffs, and has never had a decent win. Helenius should have lost every round to Chisora too, so his record is even worse than Whytes.