Helenius" the biggest threat to the Klitschkos?

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  1. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    again Ageed he does need work ..but he is coming for sure;)
     
  2. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    some of what you say is true , but there is a whole lot of racial things that go with it so we wont get into this and stink up my thread...please:thumbsup
     
  3. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Helenius is a really good talent. He has a great killer instinct.

    But he is not in any kind of shape.......

    The Klitschos are both far more athletic, better boxers, and are in shape.... so not a lot of hope for Helenius. But if he could at least get in shape... then he could threathen Wlad I think (Wlad would still be the favorite being the better boxer, but Helenius would be dangerous).
     
  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Simple answer: yes!
    How big a chance against Wlad: 30-35%
    How big a chance against Vitali: 10-15%
     
  5. Karapuz

    Karapuz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    No. Age is the biggest threat to brothers. Right now I don't see anyone who can upset them or even make competitive fight.
     
  6. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right now Helenius can't beat either brother. He's big, can punch, and has a good chin but he needs some work. What I would like to see is a Vitali-Helenius fight in about a years time. Let Helenius get a few more solid wins under his belt while working on some of his problems while Vitali, who is alreadly on the slide, gets older. This time next year we could see a Lewis-Vitali situation with Vitali now in the old man's role and Helenius in Vitali's original role. Would be a war and I'd give Helenius a decent chance. Right now Vitali beats him and Wlad outclasses him.
     
  7. RazzAxx

    RazzAxx Active Member Full Member

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    Robert is saying in this interview that he might like to have a few more fights before facing Klitschko. I'm very impressed about his language skills. He speaks swedish, finnish, german and even his english is quite good for a finnish athlete and a boxer.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjvXf2GoC0I[/ame]
     
  8. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good find. :good
     
  9. ceestar1

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    yeah, only as Klitschko will probably plunge into depression as Helenius will get seriously hurt, no movement and very easy to hit. Vitali will seriously damage this guy!! He does he power, I'll give him that but like I said before I doubt he will be in mrush to fight either of them...
     
  10. Schuden

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    Wlad will be easier. :D
     
  11. piscator

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    I can agree with everything you say, almost, but your comments about Helenius' shape and athletic ability I can question. Have you seen problems with Helenius' stamina?

    I've heard it said that some people (like me, for instance) look ripped when they are in shape. Others can be in perfect shape but carry enough extra weight so they don't look ripped. Do you think Helenius might fall in this last category?

    I also question some of the comments I see on this forum about Helenius' footwork. Joe Louis was notoriously slow of foot, but his feet were in the right spot when he threw a punch and knocked his opponent into never never land.

    I am not comparing Helenius with Joe Louis. He is not there yet, probably/maybe never will be. But I see some potential.
     
  12. canis-lupus

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    He is bigger threat than Samuel Peter ever was. Helenius size give him good start to fight with klitschkos not to mention another skills
     
  13. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really dont see him or anybody else right now being a threat to the Klitschko's at all. I'll probably get stick for this but **** it I'll say it I still think the guy with the best chance to upset a Klitschko is David Haye, and considering how one sided it was when he fought Wlad that pretty much sums up the heavyweight division to me.