Helenius vs Fury on neutral ground

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zmora, Dec 4, 2011.


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  1. Zmora

    Zmora Sława!!! Full Member

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    How do you guys see this fight?
    Unless one guy knocks other out cold there, we have 2 options. If it is in Britain the most possible finish is some bullsh|t stoppage. In Finnland/Germany- a controversial decision.

    So my question is: if they fought somewhere neutral, without any promoters, in a perfect place for boxing:)D) who'd win?

    I don't believe in boxing math where: if Chisora>Helenius and Fury>Chisora then Helenius>Fury...

    Chisora fought great fight yesterday. If he contiues to fight this way and improve he will be champ one day. On the other hand against Fury he looked just awful.

    I see Helenius winning by midrounds stoppage. Both guys are big, but I think Helenius hits stronger, has more experience as pro and amateur. Also this guy can take a shot, we have seen that yesterday. Fury is far more exciting to watch but that doesn't win you fights

    your opinions?
     
    Zmora, Dec 4, 2011
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  2. StillWill

    StillWill Dr. Eisenfaust Full Member

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    Fury is a far better boxer (and I am by no means a Fury fan)

    Helenius really showed how limited he was yesterday
     
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  3. Sidious

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    helenius may be bad but fury is a circus clown,end of story
     
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  4. nahkis

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    Helenius. People once again jumping to conclusion because of one weaker performance (with a broken hand and against a very good opponent). Fury looked much worse in the first McDermott fight. Fury is good but Helenius is better, would love to see this at some point.
     
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  5. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Robbie UD
     
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  6. Erlenmeyer

    Erlenmeyer Member Full Member

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    The Chisora we saw yesterday and the Chisora who lost to Fury are two totally different boxers. Fury would have no chance in a rematch, and even the one handed Helenius we saw yesterday would beat him. If Helenius can fix his glass hands, he'll knock Fury out, if not, he'll win a (neutral) decision.
     
    Erlenmeyer, Dec 4, 2011
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  7. CamR21

    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sauerland would still find someway to rob him!! Fury would destroy Helenius he is ****
     
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  8. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess it depends whether Helenius really broke his hand in round 1 of the Chisora fight...
     
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  9. nahkis

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    It's the same hand that has been ****ed many times before, it is broken. Ofcourse you can question if it really happened as early as round 1, if you want to go that route.
     
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  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    helenius is one **** boxer..he cant really do anything..however fury eats right hands like he eats smarties so hes getting knocked out
     
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  11. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    excusesssssssssssssssssssssssss..man up he got outboxed by a mediocre boxer...he was being outboxed by sergai aswell only difference was the white wolf hadnt boxed in so long and gassed out...helenius is very very limited
     
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  12. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    depends where they fight. in finland and germany helenius will always win, outside those countries he will lose
     
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  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Ive chosen the bottom option, a bit of a kop out.

    Im not saying it would be a really close fight, i think one would sort of dominate the other, or find it quite a bit easier but im not sure which way round id call it.

    I dont really rate either of them, its a **** poor division and these 2 are far from world class, it would be an ugly ass fight thats for sure, entertaining though.

    If i had to id say Fury is just too ****in easy to hit and Hellno its too hard for it not to count.
     
    Ukansodoff, Dec 4, 2011
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  14. Consu

    Consu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Styles makes fights. Helenius would be a very difficult fighter for Fury. Fury can dance little bit and pop some nice jab witch made him win against fat Chisora when Helenius had lot of troubles with well contioned Chisora.. But if Pajcik floored Fury I guess there would be a BIG chance that Helenius would do that too.. And Helenius broke his hand in first round when he hurt Chisora with his straight..

    Helenius KO5 Fury, better chin and better puncher
     
    Consu, Dec 4, 2011
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  15. Sidious

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    then,by your dumb ass logic helenius is better than wlad cause he beat brewster and wlad lost to him.so fury > chisora > helenius > wlad klitschko. good thinking,thanks,you are a connoisseur of this sport.
     
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