Helenius was retired , or no?

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  1. Maximum MARIUSZ

    Maximum MARIUSZ Member banned Full Member

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    After Wilder, he told emotional things to Wilder , he said I am empty of energy. What happened...

    He took fight in Finnish castle for pocket money but was still in retirement?

    This is perfect opponent for Joshua , against old and retired man. He comes for money and maybe another Molina.
     
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  2. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s his easiest opponent since Gary Cornish or Kevin Johnson.

    Helenius is that far gone and washed up, that it really is a blatant mismatch. Just like those two earlier fights in his career were.
     
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  3. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His renaissance came vs Kownacki. Did very well and had his number. He seems a bespoke opponent for AJ though. Basically AJ can't really win even if he wins.
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Helenius would have had a better career had it not been for that shoulder tear. I also think the surgery to fix it was botched and he had to have another procedure. He had legit savage power in his right hand before the tear. Not saying he would have been a unified champion or anything but he had potential to win a belt.
     
  5. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    Helenius has never retired. That's a fact.
     
  6. Maximum MARIUSZ

    Maximum MARIUSZ Member banned Full Member

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    Helenius replied to Wilder: "Don't be sorry. This is your time, I'm out, I've been doing this for 25 years. Thanks for the opportunity."
     
  7. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Helenius was retired in the same way Clint Eastwood is retired. They may not be looking for work, but if an interesting project comes along...

    Me? I don't think AJ was ever going to fight Whyte and I don't think it was a coincidence that Helenius fought just a few weeks ago.
     
  8. BeantownAll

    BeantownAll Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shoulder surgery will always weaken a shoulder. A surgery doesn't need to be botched to have that effect.