help please!!!!

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by neil4374, Jan 4, 2011.


  1. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If your looking for a place with out arguments your best is do your own research on google and come to your own conclusions.

    for every person that knows what they're talking about theres 3 other people that think they know what the're talking about and its their life quest to prove that anyone that actually has a clue is an idiot and they know better by correcting their own strawman arguments and circle jerking with their alts......thus some how making them seem like they know something when really all they did was make an incorrect statement that sounds like something some one said and then correcting it with their own opinion.

    you want to know about nutrition? google it.
    you want to lose weight? exercise consistently and drink water when your hungry.
     
  2. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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  3. Max Power

    Max Power Member Full Member

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    Hey mate,

    go to rosstraining.com
    everything you need to know will be on there, and there are plenty of knowledgeable helpful posters there as well.

    I also highly recommend Ross' book 'Infinite Intensity'
     
  4. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    My goal: I have no desire to put on any muscle. I would like to keep what muscle I have and get ripped to the bone!

    You guys have to listen to the question. Man, do folks go on tangents here. If this is the goal, eat well, condense your weight routines, and use more interval type cardio work.

    On another note, my article on the Aerobic Energy System answered many questions and unfortunately there is a lot of false information out there. Make no mistake, boxing is an aerobic-anaerobic sport, not vice versa. There are indeed physiological adaptations that come from LSD work due to the heart rate staying in a certain range, and their are also different adaptations to very intense cardio intervals. Both have their place in training this energy systems, and affect the heart in different ways. Lefty disagreed with a few things, but that is what makes the world go round.
     
  5. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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    Thanks Max Power.I will heed your advice and check the site out.

    VonLPC, Thanks for recognising my goal and four comments on folks going off on 'tangents' is spot on!

    Cheers for your advice, appreciated.
     
  6. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These are both excellent posts.


    If I were in your situation I'd avoid running entirely. 120kg on a 5'7" frame? Running (especially long distance on roads) will likely wreck your knees and/or ankles. In my opinion, intervals are the way to go, but running isn't essential, nor would I really advise it for a guy your size. Biking, swimming, cardio boxing, etc. are all viable alternatives to burn bulk calories. If you run regularly at the moment, or feel you can do so without stressing out your joints then by all means do it, but pay attention to your body and know the difference between soreness and pain.

    Going by your initial post, your main goals are weight loss and lowering your body fat %. A lot of that is diet. Get you diet locked down, control your calorie intake and train as often as you can while remaining consistent.

    Edit: and yeah, rosstraining.com is the tits.
     
  7. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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    Thanks, points taken.
    Will act upon:)
    CHEERS!
     
  8. royalpain

    royalpain New Member Full Member

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    Networking with people who have more/less experience and knowledge in forums like this is a sign, you're heading in the right direction. But as Ylem said, sometimes the true information can be dilluted and can get lost in translation, so you should be prepared to spend some time (quite a bit) doing research of your own, and verify the source of what people tell you. Good luck-
     
  9. royalpain

    royalpain New Member Full Member

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    If you wanna take it a step further in talking shop, what is your goal and what workouts and diets in motion to get there? Please forgive me as I have low IQ, and although I can sense your frustration, it's not clear cut what you want out of it. As I said, state your present physical profile and your goal... Is your goal, ultimately, to lose weight or want to train for competition fights or wanna gain speed and agility or wanna gain strength or just wanna have a physique of a boxer???? I'm not trying to sound condesceding here, so don't take it the wrong way... when I went on forums for advice from experts, although I'm not, I found that the more detail and illustrating I can be of my problems, the easier it was for them to pinpoint what I needed... kinda like help me help you!
     
  10. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    For a pure strength routine, which won't necessarily result in increased muscle mass (especially if you're dieting) try http://www.stronglifts.com

    If you can get hold of starting strength or Practical Programming by Mark Rippetoe they are also good options.

    Don't be preturbed by the novice programs, all they mean is that you can continue linear progression and aren't stalling - as an ex bodybuilder you probably have a ton of linear progression potential.

    Seeing as losing weight is more important at the moment, perhaps it would be beneficial to only do the weights twice a week instead of the three times suggested, and instead do boxing/cardio on the other days.
     
  11. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the help guys:)

    I have one last question on this subject...

    I understand the idea behind lifting heavy for a few reps and this not creating new muscle just strength which is great however...

    But why would some bodybuilders choose to do this method at some stages of the careers if it didnt reap muscle?(for example Arnie, Reg Park.I do not want to gain muscle!)

    Is it becasue the strength gains would lead to more muscle gains when they returned to reps in the hypertrophy range?
     
  12. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    perhaps a way to more easily get over the plateau.
     
  13. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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    arh, that makes sense.

    thank you
     
  14. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In his encyclopedia of bodybuilding, Arnie said it made the muscles look more dense.
     
  15. neil4374

    neil4374 New Member Full Member

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    I see.
    So in fact low rep weight training should provide a fuller more stronger muscle, and lots of strength whereas a bodybuilding muscle may not be as strong nor as dense.
    I remember when i was bodybuilding and dieting I still gained muscle but i was in the 6 to 10 rep range.

    I think the low rep range is the way forward.

    Thanks for your time guys