Help Settle An Argument Regarding Punch Resistance

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  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Which do you consider the poorest example of punch resistance; a fighter who is easily rocked but does not go down, or a fighter who is easily knocked down but gets up immediately with no effects?
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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    The first is probably worse.

    The first two that came to mind were Frank Bruno for the first, and Felix Trinidad for the 2nd.
     
  3. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ideally you want neither, if you had to pick one id pick number two, due to the fact that once you are rocked you are open to assault, but if you go down and get up with no ill effects, there are, well no ill effects.
     
  4. Poirot

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    I'd rather have the second one because once you are down the opponent cannot finish you off, and you get a breather to recuperate. I think the first one shows you have immense toughness, but the second one is a bit smarter.
     
  5. 0-1

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    Joe Calzaghe is a great example of the second. I often feel that a fighter exhibiting the first case is being needlessly macho. If they'd just fall down and have the rest, then regroup, they'd be in a much better position. It's often the tremendous shots taken whilst struggling, and staying upright, that do most of the damage.
     
  6. Poirot

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    You are right with those comments.
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I went with both being equally poor, but it can come in a combination, and is rarely clearcut.
     
  8. DAGOBOY

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    went with the first of your choices because atleast i dont have to take the beating before a possible stoppage before continuing to fight on.
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    There do seem to be occasional exceptions in some sense with fighters like Cotto and Holyfield who have managed to weather storms without the loss of critical points by falling to the canvas. You make good points. ^
     
  10. OPBF

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    The second one isn't really about punch resistance, but a balance problem.
     
  11. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Can we have one thread where Calzaghe or Haye DON'T come up.

    Calzaghe has a good chin, and he doesn't wobble easy either. He's an example of neither.

    ..but on a side note, a guy who get's wobbled easy, but doesn't go down is better off on the cards. Going down means you lost the round, almost ALWAYS.. while you can come back from being wobbled.

    Cunningham just lost the fight from doing the second, he would have won the fight if he did the 1st.
     
  12. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Did you watch the fight tonight, for example? Balance?? Go ahead and elaborate..
     
  13. OPBF

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    Didn't even watch any fight tonight. If you want to make it specific, say it in the OP post.
     
  14. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Honestly, balance is a good part of a good chin. If say Cunningham had better balance, which he has pretty bad balance, he probably could of saved 2 of those KD's.. but he went down because of the way he took the shots, he fell off balance with the shots. Take that as to how Adamek takes a shot, where he stands solid, he's not getting knocked back from a hard shot, well as Cunningham was... that's balance, not just punch resistance.
     
  15. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I'm asking about this balance thing. Elaborate if you would...