Henry Armstrong = fantastic fighter!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Danny, Aug 25, 2008.


  1. Danny

    Danny Guest

    The more you closely look at Armstrong's record, the more evidence there is to suggest that he was very rare breed indeed when it comes to fighters.

    For a long, long time I have always thought Ray Robinson was the best P4P in history, but the more I've looked into the career of Armstrong, I'm not so sure now. However, I'm in no doubt that Robinson & Armstrong are the two best P4P ever.

    From 1937-1940 Armstrong went 57-1. That's amazing! Fighters of today are lucky if they have that amount of actual fights throughout their whole career, let alone over three years.

    Henry was an extraordinary guy. He hwas diagnosed with having an enlarged heart & I guess that explains why he was very well conditioned.
     
  2. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    So right Danny.. Perpetual motion he was... I doubt a bad word can be said of Homicide Hank. A very rare gem in every aspect of form and credibility. The men encountered through his career resembles a record book in itself. Had a draw with Garcia been a victory, Its quite a proposition for himself to have been regarded higher than Robinson.

    To pen his career record on paper, not withstanding the weight classes and quality of opponent, he remains well within the realms of top 5 P4P ever.

    Winning Titles from Feather- welterweight from Oct 37-Aug 38..... Not much room for arguement... In the incorrenct order to boot..
     
  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    anyone that doesnt have him in theyre top 5 of all time doesnt know **** about boxing.
     
  4. TommyV

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    I have him at #4, just behind Robinson.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Robinson, Greb, Duran, Charles, Moore, Ray Leonard, Benny Leonard, RJJ, Mayweather, Marciano, ALi, Pepp, Langford, Louis all have fair cases to be above him. The 3 weight class thing and countless meaningless fights while avoiding Charles Burley doesn't give me the erection it gives other posters
     
  6. McGrain

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  7. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Mayweather,Marciano,Ali ahead of Armstrong give me a break.
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Out of that list I would rank Langford, Greb and Robinson above him in that order, I think Charles and perhaps Duran have cases aswell, I can't see the case for having Moore, either Leonard, Ali, Louis or Pep above him though. And certainly not Jones Jr, Mayweather or Marciano.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Why not if I see Mayweather better at 130-135, both fighters optimal weights?

    Ali and Marciano beat far better opposition than Armstrong and Armstrong has poor losses close to prime
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    please go check Armstrongs record before you post again.
     
  11. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have him at 2 behind Robinson and just above Langford and Greb.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    When it comes to Armstrong you need to compare who else fought in the same weight classes and contrast. It is very useful to compare Duran, Mayweather, B Leonard and Whitaker (I forgot to include him), Pepp because they fought in the same weight classes - Mayweather and Duran in the exact same classes. I really don't see Armstrong as the most impressive from this group and see Duran, Whitaker, Mayweather, Pepp and B Leonard beating him at relevant/fair/prime 128-140 catch weights. So why would a reasonable person rate Armstrong P4P higher than similar sized fighters who have the beating of him?
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I did it was missing the name 'Charles Burley', plenty of bums on his resume though
     
  14. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    then you should mention SRR has hes missing Burley in resume too.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    I do and it seriously hurts SRR's legacy for me