Henry Armstrong = fantastic fighter!

Gentlemen.....Mayweather??? please gain perspective... Armstrong defended his Welterweight Title 18 times in 2 1/2 years.... 5 times alone in Oct 39.... This is not a record to be compared to Floyd now or at a later date.. A title fight is a title fight... The career of Armstrong is something to be considered unsurpassed as far as activity.....

 

exactly he fought more in year than Mayweather in his entire career.

he held titles in three weight division and couldve been four but he drew with Garcia for the middleweight title in a fight manny think he shouldve won.

holds the record for modt defenses of the welterweight title.

beat guys like Bummy,Davis,Sammy Angott,Lew Jenkins,Fritzie Zivic,Ceferino Garcia,Lou Ambers,Petey Sarron,Tippy Larkin,Willie Joyce,Leo Rodak,Barney Ross,Midget Wolgast,Bennie Bass,Chalky Wright etc.

and some of the guys he mention as bums have more than 100 victories.

 

Forget records, go check him out against Jose Luis Castillo. We don't even have to get into records to prove that Mayweather is inferior - which of course he is in a resume sense and it's not even worth debating.

 

no doubt this thing isnt even debatable.

 

70 years from today...The question will be posted. .."Floyd who..????" In ten years, the on going questions will legitimize the record of Mayweather, when spoken in terms of greatness.... as it did with Clay. Only Clay himself was forthminded enough to know his own place in prosperity.... as foolish as it seemd in the day.

 

Give the guy the benefit of the doubt. He as good as used one arm against Castilio as he had a torn rotator cuff.

 

He didn't show me anything in the rematch to suggest that he takes Armstrong at 135.

 

There is a great piece on Armstrong on the main page if you wanna check it out

I have Armstrong at #2

 

Based on achievement.

 

RJJ? Mayweather?

 

1. Defended against WHO though, I can't see anyone on his wins column who has a shot of beating Mayweather, Mayweather too has 20 World Title fights on his ledger.

2. You can argue the lineage of his Welterweight crown went out the window when he lost at lightweight

3. He lost the Welterweight title to Zivic and twice went life and death with Ambers at lightweight. Neither look particularly impressive on film

4. He avoided the top fighters like Burley, Williams and Cocoa Kid. Therefore not proving himself the top Welter, much like Mayweather hasn't faced Cotto/Margarito/Williams - 2 Williams in 2 generations avoided

 

Yes because Armstrong only had 21 LOSSES

 

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Ofcourse every fighter will have losses, but why should Mayweather be ragged on for Castillo and Armstrong's failings be ignored? Armstrong did lose in his prime

Fighting 20fights a year no longer makes economical sense, it doesn't make today's fighters worse because they fight loss. Quantity does not equal Quality. Armstrong did fight all comers past his prime, BUT thats when he wasn't champ and had nothing to protect, ie he didn't have to risk losing the belt. NOTE I'm not saying Armstrong ducked anyone, perhaps his management steered him clear of a few bouts

Would Armstrong be worse if he fought today, only had 40-50 fights and fought the same standard from 126-147?

 

Mayweather doesn't even come close to comparing to Armstrong.

The difference between them is night and day.

Mayweather's more of a technical boxer, Armstrong a swarmer. Think an old-time version of Aaron Pryor - constantly swinging and charging for a full 15 rounds.

Armstrong had well over 100 more fights than Mayweather, as well.