Henry Armstrong vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Journeyman92, Aug 3, 2022.

Who wins?

  1. Armstrong

    86.7%
  2. Mayweather

    13.3%
  3. Draw

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going off topic is intellectual dishonesty smart guy. It's a logic fallacy, look it up.

    To address your irrelevant point about Armstrong not fighting at 37, we were discussing how Floyd looked against one of the few rugged sluggers comparable to Armstrong (Maidana). Maidana is slower and sloppier than Armstrong and gave Floyd hell. Comparing what age Floyd retired vs Armstrong has nothing to do with the fact Floyd clearly isn't going to be too fast for Armstrong to hit. If you want to cherry pick, Floyd got tagged plenty in his prime against Castillo.
     
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  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Member Full Member

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    Why don't you look at Armstrong's record against ranked fighters and compare it to Floyd's ? I think you would cry if you did and you will avoid it so I'm going to type it myself :

    Armstrong has had more wins against top 10 rated fighters than Floyd has had fights.

    Armstrong has had more wins against top 3 rated fighters than Floyd has had fights against top 10 rated fighters.

    Armstrong has had the exact amount of title match fights as Floyd with only 4 losses AKA 22 wins to Floyd's 26, in an era when they had half the weight classes and 4 times less belts and weren't fighting several mediocre titlists to pad their record.

    Armstrong has had 14 wins against hall of famers to Floyd's 7 if you Include Canelo and Pacquiao.

    Your smartass just cherrypicked the HoF stats because Armstrong is 14-7 there while floyd is 7-0. Too bad those losses were against the likes of Arizmendi and Zivic, actual elites and all time greats when Henry was either just beginning his career or was past it. Floyd beat a shot to bits Arturo Gatti and Oscar De La Hoya though so it's comparable.

    Also LMAO at attempting to compare Floyd's 3 round amateur career as if it compensates for the wear and tear Armstrong had in 183 Professional fights.
     
  3. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Member Full Member

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    Armstrong whips him and its ugly, but then Floyd would never fight him.
     
  4. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    His form against Maidana was nothing close to against Mosley and Marquez. And he beat Castillo widely in the rematch sans injuries. Castillo was bigger than Armstrong.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    So you’re not gonna do it, pal?
     
  6. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Member Full Member

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    I literally did it in the post, are you blind ?
     
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  7. FrankinDallas

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    Why give Floyd the advantages ?

    15 rounds, 1935 rules. Armstrong savages Floyd at 147.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I didn't read the post because it looked like a bunch of rambling nonsense.

    7-0 compared to 14-7. It's a one sentence answer. I'll take 7-0.

    Oscar, Cotto, Mosley, Pac, Marquez, Gatti, Canelo. And Corrales, Genero, and Hatton may eventually get in.
     
  9. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jose Luis Castillo.
     
  10. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Member Full Member

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    It's ok, you're just an idiot who wants to play it cool when he gets cornered in a debate.
    I'd take Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Petey Sarron, Baby Arizmenzi and Fritzie Zivic any day of the week and twice on sundays . 2 losses to arizmendi, 2 losses to Zivic and 1 loss to Robinson while not in your prime in any of them is not something to be ashamed of. Claiming you beat a shot Arturo Gatti to prove your greatness is.
     
  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    2-0
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Lol at the thought of Floyd losing to Arizmeni and Zivic, nevermind the loses you skipped (see:intellectual dishonesty).
     
  13. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Member Full Member

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    Gotta love seeing you talk about intellectual dishonesty, you apparently saw one cool word in the dictionary and now you say it to everyone.

    What about you mate ? You claim I skipped losses for convenience, you skipped an entire post which literally posted stats in Armstrong's favor you later actually ASKED FOR when I said that the HoF is not the be end and all, which I posted anyway just for you to cherrypick it out of the entire post. Never did I say Zivic and Arizmendi would beat Floyd as you suggest, and Henry losing to them while not in his prime while also still having wins against them anyway doesn't help your case. You've exposed yourself as a hypocrite.

    Bottom line is you compared resumes to prove Floyd's supposed H2H superiority. I proved otherwise to the point where the comparison is silly in the post you skipped, only your delusional Floyd loving mind thinks otherwise.
     
  14. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't cherry pick the Castillo rematch and ignore the first fight. This entire discussion all you've done is cherry pick. First the maidana fight can't be used since that wasn't prime Floyd, now you want to ignore the Castillo fight.

    A 38 year old Mosley timed Floyd with a sledgehammer right hand and made Floyd hold on for dear life. What's the excuse this time? Is Armstrong slower than a past his prime Mosley too?
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Armstrong was smaller and less powerful than Mosley, whom Floyd dominated.

    It's odd that you cherry pick Castillo, a fight he won. Perhaps you should cherry pick some of Armstrong's draws against questionable opponents, let alone his loses.