Henry Armstrong vs Floyd Mayweather Jnr

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Journeyman92, Aug 3, 2022.

Who wins?

  1. Armstrong

    86.7%
  2. Mayweather

    13.3%
  3. Draw

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    0.0%
  1. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I probably forgot more about boxing than you'll ever know.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't understand the meaning of the word "objective" then.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then you must forgot everything, because you are clueless in every discussion we have here. You just said that Armstrong wouldn't be top 30 fighter at his weight after supposedly watching him destroying ATG boxer in a way basically nobody else could do. I'm not a boxing expert, but you are so dense that you can't get away from bashing everything that is in B&W... well, unless we're talking about your beloved SRR or Sonny Liston, then suddenly your arguments don't matter.
     
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Interesting. Thanks. That does place the line pretty late for the eye test.

    How good does the film have to be, do you think? Is Joe Louis's good enough, for example?
     
  5. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    Depends if Armstrong breaks Mayweather defence which he definitely could do. However Mayweather could easily out smart Armstrong so I could go either way but personally I think I would edge it to Mayweather,
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Louis had enough film to me. But obv when Primo and Baer are the best big guys you beat, it doesn’t say much about fighting Fury and Lewis.
     
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Thanks. I'm curious about your standards for film quality as well, not just amount. I assume Johnson's film you'd consider too poor to judge from despite it being plentiful, for example.

    What's the earliest / worst quality film you'd accept as high enough quality to be useful for the eye test?
     
  8. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Given your posts on this forum you should probably forget more of your "boxing knowledge"
     
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  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I think Schmelimg has some footage that's ahead of its time.
     
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  10. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't see the destruction you are talking about, it looked pretty even to me.
     
  11. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then there is no hope for you...
     
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Armstrong has become terribly underrated by many .. with his own speed, volume of punches, strength, power, chin and stamina he'd be a very challenging fight for even the best Floyd ..I say this feeling that at 130 and 135 Floyd was an incredible fighter with his speed, conditioning and overall talent ... like many fights, the conditions would matter .. ref, what he allows, ring size, glove size , bout distance .. toss up ..
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looing at the poll you are in small minority believing this is a toss op. It seems you are the one underrating Armstrong.
     
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  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    I am going off many years reading posts here and not one thread ... I am also not underrating Floyd because liking him is besides the point ... he was one of the all time greats and would have been a very difficult match up for any fighter below natural welters ..