Henry Armstrong vs Julio Cesar Chavez

A close, controversial one in which Armstrong got five rounds deducted. Armstrong beat him convincingly in the rematch.

Zivic? Much bigger than Chavez - and the fight was at ww - and due you think chavez would thumb Armstrong half-blind?

 

And Homicide Hank would have mauled Meldrick Taylor

 

Anyone saying this would not be a competitive fight is either lying or crazy.

This would be a brutal all out war. I dont think either man is getting KOed which is why a favor Armstrong, who would simply land more punches. Then again Chavez may wear Armstrong down as i believe he has possibly the greatest left hook to the body of all time, certainly one of the best.

I want to give them both the benefit of the doubt and say neither gets knocked down or tires and because of that Armstrong just gets the nod.

 

I agree with this.

Armstrong should be favored, but Chávez will be a threat to the final second.

Considering Armstrong's heft as a puncher, Chávez is also at risk of suffering a late TKO here.

Quite possibly neither would be the same afterward.

What a war this would be!

 

Maybe out of respect for the loser, who I am sure we all have a huge amount; the fairest way to put this is who wins 2 outta 3 or 3 outta 5

And I think Armstrong wins those, giving JC the due respect in defeating Armstrong at some points.

 

Frankly, I don't think Chavez was in Armstrong's class (though to be fair, only a handful of fighters are IMO). Armstrong annihilated a genuine ATG in Ross, and also beat other great or near-greats like Ambers and Wolgast. By contrast, the best level of opponent Chavez proved he could beat was Taylor, and he managed that only by the skin of his teeth. I think that win basically represents the furthest boundaries of Chavez's capabilities. When Chavez finally did run into a genuine ATG in Whitaker, it marked the end of his winning streak.

As far as styles go, I'd say Armstrong has a big edge there as well. Armstrong was able to go all the way up to MW and outwork/outmuscle a big, strong, powerful jr. MW sized fighter who outweighed him by over 10 pounds. By contrast, Chavez was actually outslugged by Taylor for much of their fight, and was driven to fight on the back foot by LaPorte and Lockridge even down at 130.

In the end, I'd favor Armstrong by clear decision, likely dominating the fight down the stretch.

 

Actually, he did beat Zivic too. :good

Besides, I'd make Zivic the fave over Chavez as well.

More like Referee Art Donovan had a big win over Armstrong. Outside of the controversial low blow deductions, Armstrong simply beat the **** out of Ambers.

 

Armstrong made one of sports, all sports, greatest accomplishments. There were only 8 united titles, no split titles, 8 divisions, that's it. Guy won 3 titles and held them simultaneously. Then he almost won 4th title, came very close, he would have had half of all tittles, at same time, amazing. Only thing that would hurt him would not be another fighter, it would be style. He fought with head down in unusual way, and threw ton of borderline low blows. Low blows were not called on borderline shots then, which is right way to ref a fight. However he did go low a lot too, and got penalized often for it in a time they were lenient on that. If he fought in Chavez era, he would not even win one title with that style, he was great enough to adjust in my opinion. In Chavez's era, it's close, in Armstrong's era, no one beats him pound for pound.

 

I think Armstrong because he's better within 10 inch range and fights side on, protecting more of his body, also has a better workrate.

 

Not nearly as badly as Chavez would have mauled Lou Ambers...

 

Agreed,

Chavez was a more technical destructive fighter after watching as much Armstrong as I could find he looked like he was a swarmer like a small Frazier. I don't remember seeing Chavez with conditioning issues but his opponents took alot of damage that took their legs and will over a long fight. I think JCC could take this fight his subtle defense was excellent and he was accurate as hell.

 

Of course I do!
Put Henry in the 90's and JCC in the 30's.