Henry Maske- light heavyweights forgotten man and other forgotten European world champions

I hope my previous post has cleared everything up.

 

LOL

 

Instantly a very emotional start. Surprised you didnt write all of that in capitals

No.
I have different views on different subjects. Focus now

With you specifying exactly what has made you so emotional

You will have to find me that thread and post.
I believe it would be that Toney didnt beat McCallum at first and drew with him and the win he did have was disputed.
Tiozzo was a clear winner

I dont recall saying Jones SMW resume was poor. I said that I didnt think Toneys SMW resume was great. Cant recall saying it with Jones who had beaten Malinga, Lucas and Toney, though dont rate Jones win over Pazienza as anything more than a SMW champ beating a former LW champ. Maybe this is where you have got confused?
No I dont think Jones SMW resume is as good as many others but cant recall saying poor. Maybe poor in comparison to some others?

I dont recall rubbishing that win? I did say Michalczewski was at the end of his career but also that the decision was highly debatable

Numerous times??? When
I would say Dariusz was past his best but nobody had completely dominated him in that fashion before, which is why I rate Tiozzos win over a legend

I think you are making things up now.
When have I said I didnt rate it? I did an ATG tribute thread on Hill.
You are going to have to show me these posts now.
I may have noted Hill was coming off a loss though

Ive always called them good wins for Ward. Might not have said great

No.
You seem to have made up alot of what I have supposedly said and altered parts to suit what you want said. That is being all over the place.

I see what it is and said that when I knew I would explain to @Eggman .
The issue here is that because Roys name was in this thread, Loudon has got his knickers in a twist.

Notice here, he didnt dispute any of the stats that he called King of Spin about and went off on a tangent.
I said he wouldnt be specific as to why, but it looks like it is because Roys name was mentioned in the thread.
Now admit Loudon what you were so emotional about and explain those stats that you claim have been spun rather than waffle on about something completely different

 

What you made up

 

Agenda? On a thread you werent on, talking about a fighter who I cant recall talking about with you before?
So what is this context now?

I notice how when something gets written that you dont agree with, its like a form of narcissism takes hold of you

There is no agenda. You werent in the conversation and just jumped in.
The agenda is with yourself

 

Looks like you are having alot of fun lol

 

Ha!

Well of course you don’t recall saying any of it.

Wow. I’m shocked.

You’re hardly going to admit it are you. But after debating you for 8 years, I know exactly what you’ve said in the past.

Everything I’ve said is true.

I’ve just given you specific examples.

You change your mind depending on the subject matter and who you’re debating with.

Tiozzo was a good fighter. But if a fighter you didn’t like had his exact resume, your comments would be completely different. Instead of showing his wins in a positive light, you’d tear them down.

You’re a joker.

Look at how you debate:

You don’t rate Andre Ward’s easy win over Carl Froch, despite the fact that he had a double fractured hand, and that Carl went on to destroy Lucian Bute straight after. It’s not a win you rate highly, as you think that Carl was tired and faded.

Yet you think that Steve Collins had TWO GREAT wins over a shot Nigel Benn. A version of Nigel Benn who’d come out retirement after a loss to Malinga, who was at the end of the road, and who had to bet on himself as a motivational tool. A guy who’d had a shadow on his brain and who retired afterwards.

If that’s not bad enough, you even celebrate the first win as being great, despite the fact that it had to be stopped due to an injury after just 4 rounds.

You are completely incapable of debating.

You never allow for any circumstances.

You’re a stat man.

A BoxRec warrior.

You know what your nickname is on here.

These guys who haven’t debated you before will quickly figure you out.

If I come across any of those old threads where you’ve made various contradictory comments, I’ll bump them.

You’ll have to claim amnesia or pretend that you were just joking.

Enjoy the rest of your debate.

 

No worries.

I won’t make any more comments on your thread.

I apologise for jumping in.

You’ll figure him out soon enough.

 

See. There you go bending the truth again.
I have said Kessler was faded and past best as well as suffering eye problems when he fought Ward, but have always said it was a decent win.
You know I rate ottke as a SMW but also know I have said ward has some better singular wins if not overall resume at the weight

Yes bump those threads and copy me in.
Keep you busy for a while

The comedy comes when you say I'm a stat man when you gave butes stats compared to Dawson's stats when comparing their heights and reach or personal stats, yet accuse others of what you do personally lol

You are just getting emotional because you haven't been able to back up your king of spin comment on the Tiozzo post, so have had a bit of a breakdown.
Why don't you go find a post that isn't going to hurt your feelings so much

You say I'm not capable of debating yet haven't backed up your comment and I wouldn't go talking about nicknames lol

 

That's right
You made a king of spin comment about a post I made on Tiozzo, get questioned about it from another poster, can't answer and now leaving.
So let's go to the specific Tiozzo post you jumped on here to pick an argument with me on and break down that specific post and how the stats have been spun
This will be good

Once again the narcissism kicks in. Someone doesn't post what you want to see and you get "you'll figure him out soon enough"
Interesting how you appear to view yourself of higher opinion