Heorl Graham.......Where does he rank?

I do not have in my top 10 Brits:

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His one of the best fighters Britain ever had that never became a world champ.What Julian Jackson did to him was brutal.Every time you think of Herol Jackson immediately springs to mind.

 

great fighter just damn unlucky to fight at wrong times. real shame if he won the title he would be sorted but now he is just remembered as a great english boxer...but only a european belt on his name and a highlight reel of him geting koed by julian jackson.
doesnt he run a boxarobic classes now...what a shame

 

I would class Herol Graham in the same bracket as scotsman Gary jacobs, both won british, commonwealth & european titles but always came up short against the best.

Jacobs lost to Buddy McGirt & Pernell Whittaker, & Graham lost to Mike McCallum & Julien Jackson.

I love Jacobs the way the englanders love Herol Graham, but its hard to argue that either deserve to be called british greats, cos they always came up that bit short when it mattered.

 

Not a great, just short. One the best fighters to never win a world title. His comeback and earning a shot a Brewer was impressive I was screaming that night really thought the old might the title I thought he deserved.

Shame to see him these days teaching boxercise in a posh gym (altough he said he wouldn't want to get into proper training) and making skipping ropes for a few extra quid. Still at least he accepts that he should have looked after his money but didn't and isn't like your bitter, drunk ex pros.

 

I think herol was in the same league as guys like watson,collins,eubank and benn...Its a shame he never fought any of them....He was a little unlucky to fight two very good boxers (Jackson and especially mccallum.) for his first two title shots and to get his final shot at an advanced age....I think he was better than watson,dont let the stoppage by jackson cloud your judgement,he ran mccallum all the way in their contest....He was probably avoided by the top british guys of the time as well...

 

Julian Jackson was a shitty boxer......he was a mini Razor Ruddock but with even more p4p power. Bomber was boxing his head off until he got caught...though I still say it was a premature stoppage.
Running that McCallum close was a sign of what a good technician Bomber was.

 

agree 100%.jackson wasn't in the same class as a boxer and graham was giving him a lesson they were on the verge of stopping it because of eye damage.graham totally out of character dropped his defences and went in for the kill then bingo.it's true his performance vs mcCallum showed his pedigree.

 

Jackson may have been not so great a 'boxer' but he was one of the hardest p4p punchers of all times....A lethal one punch hitter....Graham was maybe one round away from stopping the man,just had to box really.....
And lennox lewis is better than all those other brits you mentioned in terms of resume and achievements....Y'all musta forget LL....

 

yeah bull**** comparison from dunky.

graham gave mccallum a damn close fight.

and was boxing rings around jackson until that finish.

jacobs was decisively beaten in top class.

if graham was around now the world would have been his oyster.

the 80's was a great era. :bbb

 

How dare you call my post bull**** you cheeky ****:twisted:

Read my post again, & read it properly. Achievement wise you cant split Graham & Jacobs.

Now if we are going to get into a debate about who had the more natural talent, its a no-brainer. Herol Graham had more natural talent than Gary Jacobs. However, I wasnt talking about that, I was looking at their careers in the cold light of day, not fannying around with romantic notions like you about what-might-have-beens.

At the end of the day, Gary Jacobs fought the no1P4P fighter in the world at the time pernell Whittaker, & the ringside analysts had Jacobs winning the fight up until the 6th round, before Whittakers class told.

Read my post boy. ACHIEVEMENT wise, you cant split them. & as for the old "if herol was around today blah blah" well he isnt. & are you forgetting Grahams awful defeat against the average Kalambay who was blown away in a round in his next fight by Michael Nunn?

Its time to take the rose tinted spectacles off when talking about one of your own HH, & read a post for what it is without letting national pride cloud your judgemement.

Graham was a great guy with bags of talent, but he wasnt good enough to hang with the best of his era. His L's prove that.

 

Dunky, I think your being a bit harsh on Kalambay,he has plenty of decent scalps on his record-Macallum,DeWitt,Collins and Iran Barkley if I remember correctly. No one saw the Nunn fight panning out as it did.
He did benefit from an awful hometown decision in the rematch against Graham though.