Here’s a scenario

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Wig, Jul 8, 2023.


  1. DramaShow

    DramaShow 19 banned Full Member

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    I have never reported you mate. I don’t have a problem with your posts. I respect them even though we have different opinions.
     
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  2. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolutely mate and I never thought you would.

    Keep your updates coming and have you had a chance to look at the Pacheco fight yet?
     
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  3. ALN93

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    Stayed in the same hotel as Pacheco in New York 4 years ago when he was just starting out and he’s huge for the weight. Must be about 6 ft 4/5.
     
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  4. DramaShow

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    I’ve been in Scotland so haven’t had time. Hopefully he’s matched well. Berlanga and Munguia fights can be made. Let’s be honest, Berlanga and Munguia both aren’t great but have whole countries supporting them.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Pacheco Jason Quigley on the Cameron Taylor II card.
     
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  5. Beale

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    Enjoy your break mate.
     
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  6. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I found it interesting that Nelson takes it for granted that a developed Wilder would have beaten Haye, who I believe he's friends with. That's a controversial opinion on this forum for some reason, despite Haye claiming injuries and pulling out twice against a relatively green Fury.

    Some other facts:

    - Wilder was the only American on their eleven man team to medal at the Beijing Olympics, in a squad containing four other future world champions

    - Earmarked as a future heavyweight champion and the best heavyweight prospect after Fury by Emanuel Steward in 2011/2012

    - Became the first American heavyweight champion since 2007, which was by far the longest world title drought in the history of American heavyweight boxing

    - Aside from Wlad, no heavyweight champion has had a longer unbroken reign since 1985

    - Never lost to a clear underdog like M. Spinks, Douglas, Moorer, McCall, Puritty, Byrd, J. Ruiz, Rahman, Sanders, Brewster or A. Ruiz, never had a controversial points win, never lost a points decision and never quit

    - Weighed the least of any heavyweight champion in 8 years (212.5 lbs) while making a successful title defence

    - Uniquely never failed to KO/TKO/RTD an opponent who wasn’t a reigning world champion

    - The most accomplished American heavyweight since a pre-Byrd Holyfield
     
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  7. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Refreshing to read, thanks. The cult of Eddie Hearns junior has a lot to answer for.
     
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  8. Brixton Bomber

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    Classic damage control.
     
  9. ALN93

    ALN93 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Great post.
     
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  10. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What damage? Wilder’s only damage has come against prime ATG fury in a trilogy which elevated Wilder himself into a HOF lock and the ATG discussion. A trilogy which will live on in heavyweight folklore for hundreds of years.

    nobody will remember Eddie Hearns saying “Shirley winkel” and “they don’t want it koogs!”

    boxers are remembered for their deeds inside the ring, not for the words of their promoters
     
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  11. Aussietralia

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    Laughed at the Shirley part. Not sure I agree with ya mate, some people in hundreds of years will read some of Hearn and co's quotes on some of these fanboys' headstones. That's as far as it'll go!
     
  12. Redbeard7

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    "Joshua simply doesn’t feature from a historical standpoint."

    I respectfully disagree: the fat Andy beatdown and QUITjob will live on forever!

    It's clear now that Joshua was a big stiff chinny useless hypejob bodybuilder but aesthetically it's the biggest upset ever. Imagine if Rocky had looked like Ruiz: no one would have believed it possible, it would have been a surrealist parody.
     
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  13. Terminator

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    Big Andy Pipkin devoured a zinger tower meal and large family bucket in KFC pre-fight then devoured joshua in the ring and still improved his BMI to KO ratio. You couldn’t write it
     
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  14. SeanB1

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    glad to see you back Beale.
     
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  15. Beale

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    Thank you
     
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