Here we go again........Mundine steps up!

I will talk only about what we do - I think that is safest. Normally I work in consultation with promoters who will enquire as to whether or not such and such is acceptable without standing over them or insisting that they fight anyone unless a mandatory has been placed under exceptional circumstances

 

QUESTION FOR PHIL AUSTIN -

Phil as you are an insider with the IBO can you please explain how Danny Green and that Dominguez character were able to fight for the vacant IBO cruiser title. How high in the IBO rankings do you have to be to qualify to fight for a vacant title ? If both fighters were deemed to be ranked high enough then how did this come about with what they had done previously at cruiserweight ?

 

As far as im aware Dominguez wasnt even ranked inside the top 50 was he Phil??:yep

 

I checked it last week and he was ranked in the 60's. From what i understood he only had to be ranked in the top 100.

 

That fights now off. Williams will be fighting someone else on October 3.

 

Yeah its TBA...Williams may even wait around until Dec 5th for Pavlik...time will tell.

 

I'l' get your address of Pat Kegsy! LOL

Francis, I have answered this question before, but I'll go again.

When you move divisions you lose 25% of your points, in this case cruiser is not as strong as light-heavy. Green lost 25% of his points but actually had a higher rating at 200. Dominguez was granted his exemption as he still qualified and a victory over Green would have had him sitting high in the divvy. Both their previous bouts had been at Cruiser so they had experience at the weight.

Was it the perfect scneario for a vacant title? No, I'll be honest about that, also like any other organisation it's a business and we require income to continue, no-one else had put forward an application and the result of the bout would see us with a strong champion as per the Top-100.

You can put down the IBO as much as you like but the fact of the matter is we are getting stronger all the time and have several big-name champions now. If you look accross the other "top 4" orgs, you will find strong champs and weak champs and we are no different. It's been a tougher struggle than we had anticipated but many seem keen to kick us because of how long we have been around - the biggest misconception seems to be longevity equates to legitimacy and nothing could be further than the truth. We are consistently increasing our reputation as being an organisation the fighters love to deal with and fighters like Jones, Tarver, Lewis, Hatton, Klitschko and Dawson are advocates for the organisation for the dealings they have had. As has been accurately posted by others earlier, the strength of the title is as good as the fighter holding it and we have come a long way. Remember several fighters have ditched more established titles to compete for ours or concentrate on ours such as Hatton, Malinaggi and Dawson who has given away WBC and IBF titles. Are other organisations more "legitimate"? I sometimes find it bemusing that people run down what we are trying to do and then get stuck into other organisations at other times. The WBA has 30-odd champions in 17 divisions: how legitimate is that for pete's sake?

It doesn't always work out all the time and mistakes are made and some necessary business decisions have to be made and carried out. We will keep going as there certainly seems to be light at the end of the tunnel. We won't be everyones cup of tea I understand that and appreciate that, but Green V Dominguez is not the worst fight for a vacant title (or title defence for that matter) that I have ever seen from some of the bigger boys

 

My understanding from many sources was he had to be within the IBO Top 50....mehh its a paper title nonetheless.

 

Sorry Phil...i no too much.:yep

 

No - you think you do Kegsy. Most of what you hear is supposition from others and info that has filtered down 3rd, sometimes 4th hand. Hardly the gospel IMO

 

I can see it frustrates you some of the stuff me & a couple others on here (perfect jet comes to mind) know about with the IBO & some of its policies, & how these seem to be often bent to suit particular individuals.
IMO all the sanctioning bodies are the same...they all make some good...but also some shocking decisions which IMO Green vs Dominguez was.

 

I think you are flattering yourself there more than a little Kegsy, but that's fine. Read over what I posted before I think I was quite honest about the fight - is it the worst fight for a vacant world title ever? **** no - Mark Breland V Lee certainly springs to mind. Why would I be frustrated about people knowing the rules and regs? We are the only true Muhammed Ali Act compliant body there is and all facts are there if you want them. Having a full grasp of the rules rather than those that suit would help

 

Thanks for the explanation Phil regarding the IBO. Your correct in that the IBO has gained much more respect in recent years. I agree with you on this and also agree that the other organisations are really no better, some people just think they are better because they have been around for longer. I just think it is wrong that Green and Dominguez fought for the vacant title. You have stated that no other applications came through from other fighters to contest the vacant title. Does that not indicate that Green and Dominguez's people have then "bought" the title by putting in an application when there were surely a fair few fighters ahead of them in the rankings. Where these higher ranked fighters contacted by the IBO to try and make a better/more relevant fight for the vacant title ? Surely the IBO would want the best possible champion to represent their organisation. I realise the organisation is a business and has to make money but do you expect us to believe that none of the higher ranked fighters at 200 had any interest in fighting for the title ? The reason the boxing organisations have a black eye is because things like this occurr. I realise you are in a tough position to comment but Green fighting Dominguez for the vacant IBO 200 title was a farce really and cheapens the idea of a world title. This then causes the stain on boxing when fighters with the skill/ability of Danny Green/Anthony Mundine etc etc can then call themselves 3 weight 3 times world champion. It doesn't look good does it ?

 

My pix are these guys......

Pavlik
Enrique Ornelas
Roman Karmazin


Now the Pavlik fight is off could Mundine get this fight late November or December :admin

 

Hi Francis
Thanks for your feedback which is most thought-provoking. At the end of the day, no other dates had been forthcoming and we prefer wherever possible not to play match-maker - this has been done by other orgs far too often and has resulted in some horrendous "mandatories" foisted upon the public. I agree it's not a perfect fight - few are but we now have a strong champion who rates very highly within our Top-100 system.

You raise some good points on the state of boxing and I will be passing these comments along