Here's my go at a p4p list...

I've criticised others' before...so time for you to criticise mine!:good

Not including anyone at flyweight or below, because I am completely clueless about these divisions, I have something like this, for my Top 30:

NOTE: These factors were not taken into consideration:

• Past achievements
• resume
• how good they are likely to become in the future
• rate of improvement
• fame/hype

Only think that was taken into consideration is how good they are now at their weight relative to others at their weight, as far as I, personally, know/can establish/believe, given my experience and skills, which aren't great, as you know, so take my list with a big pinch of salt. Marquez will be better in his next fight than Calzaghe in his, so I switched them around.

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joe Calzaghe
Joan Guzman
Ivan Calderon
Cristian Mijares
Miguel Cotto
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Mikkel Kessler
Juan Diaz
Chris John
Ricky Hatton
Kelly Pavlik
Chad Dawson
Wladimir Klitschko
Winky Wright - MW
Arthur Abraham
Cory Spinks
Vernon Forrest
Shane Mosley
Jermain Taylor
Bernard Hopkins - LHW
Fernando Montiel
Ruslan Chagaev
David Haye
Lucian Bute
Anthony Mundine
Edwin Valero
Enzo Maccarinelli

Shoot away!:bbb

 

Kessler above Wlad because Kessler has been in with Calzaghe who is one of the best in the world and proved exactly how good he was. Wlad has not been with one of the best in the world recently...so...going on his performances against recent opposition...

 

Winky is a better middleweight than Hopkins is a LHW or 170 fighter...

The fact that Hopkins beat Winky in a close fight at 170 doesn't prove that Hopkins is better. Hopkins fought at his ideal weight these days, whereas Winky fought 10 pounds over his ideal weight these days...makes a big difference.

Guzman has shown he can blow B/B+ level fighters of various styles out of the water with complete ease. Put him up against A level/elite level fighters and he will prove his worth.

 

Because Cotto, although showing the promise he will be better than these three soon, hasn't so far dominated comparative opposition the way these three have, even though he's beaten better fighters. Not a great difference between these four though. I have also put a lot of emphasis on the Mosley fight.

 

I will be accused of being silly/biased/running an agenda, etc. I know...but I was trying to be completely honest and call it as I see it, objectively. I think Hopkins is a legend, an ATG, and that he was the best fighter in the world in his day (as a MW), but now, he ain't, as a LHW. Still, for a 43 year-old, he is amazin!!!:good

 

Just one place under...not a big difference. I think Kessler is a better SMW than Juan is a lightweight...but I value Juan a lot, hence, Kessler and him are neck and neck! Also, I think Juan will probably end up a better fighter than Kessler...we'll see.:good