Here's my go at a p4p list...

Hopkins couldn't make 160 without killing himself...I think. It would be unfair to expect him to make 160 at his age. If he tried and somehow made 160, I am sure Winky would beat him. Would beat him at 164 too, I think, if Hopkins could make 164...(Don't think he can make less than 168 tops!)

Little difference at the top for me between Calderon and PBF...but I had to put them in some kind of order.

Juan Diaz, again, close to Kessler and Marquez...not a big difference...had to put them in some order.

David Haye...yeah...but there's the chin...big problem...if he gets past Macca, he will climb up quite a bit.

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Not about belts/titles for me and not that much about winning or losing because ultimately, sometimes the line between winning and losing is very small and at other times, you dominate your opponent completely. What is important to me is how you do against that calibre of opponent. I still have questions over David's chin. If he came across an unskilled puncher with a very good chin, he might be taken out...if he goes up to HW and proves he has a better chin there, he will climb higher for me. Yeah...maybe a bit low...perhaps he should be above Hopkins somewhere...fair enough. Still unsure about him, though.:good

 

I think Calzaghe was better at the end of last year than JMM. JMM, the way he trains for Pacman will prove to be better than Calzaghe, the way he trains for Bhops. It was a flip of the coin, really. Don't mind Calzaghe being placed 3rd. But if Pac v. JMM is as good as Calzaghe v. Kessler was...the list stays as it is, for me.

 

You know I am a big fan of Dawson and he has some of the best skills in the busines...but so far, he hasn't fought the very best and there big questions hanging over his chin for me. If he gets past Diaconu, his chin will prove very good for me, because I'm sure he'll get tested, and he will climb into the top 10 for me.

Kessler only possibly a bit too high...but not much at all, for me. :good

 

Yes, I gave you that point already. Think you're right...but look at this...Guzman has a better than very good chin...whereas Haye has a less than very good chin. No one will put Guzman down, except possibly Pac...although I wouldn't bet on it. Chin is a bid deal for me and this is why I have put David a bit too low...but still, I wouldn't move him that much further up...

Chin is a big deal because you can be taken out completely by a big puncher...who might have a **** chin and little skill, too!

Take Enzo Macc. He might take David out, even though he doesn't have a great chin and doesn't have elite level skills. In fact, a big puncher with a worse chin than Enzo and lesser skills could take David out completely with a lucky punch...I know it's unfair to go on about the chin, but I think a very good chin is essential at such a high level.

Thanks for your comment. It has helped me improve my list.:good

 

Please comment on this revised list now:

Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Joe Calzaghe
Juan Manuel Marquez
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Joan Guzman
Ivan Calderon
Cristian Mijares
Miguel Cotto
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Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Mikkel Kessler
Juan Diaz
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Chris John
Ricky Hatton
Kelly Pavlik
Chad Dawson
Wladimir Klitschko
Winky Wright - MW
Arthur Abraham
Cory Spinks
Vernon Forrest
Shane Mosley
David Haye
Jermain Taylor
Bernard Hopkins - LHW
Fernando Montiel
Ruslan Chagaev
Lucian Bute
Anthony Mundine
Edwin Valero
Enzo Maccarinelli

All right...I've put Haye higher. Needs to beat Macca to climb higher, for me.

 

Maybe I'm too excited about their upcoming fight...We'll see exactly how good he is then.

 

I've revised my list. Thanks!:good