Heres my problem with Ortiz and not Floyd

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iceman71, Sep 18, 2011.


  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    If people post on esb enough...they think i hate floyd because i bash him for not fighting the best , JMM, ODL, Hatton...huge names...not huge challenges... but whatever..only said all that because I will ALSO call him out when he is RIGHT.
    Ortiz was getting frustrated...just like Tyson was against Holyfield in fight II, his head butts were thought out, planned and executed...the first one didnt connect much, but was blatant...the 2nd he reloaded that head jumped up like a ram rod and cracked him in the mouth....I like Ortiz...i think he just got flustered and it was almost too early to get all like that... but heres my problem with Victor..
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    ...dont say " im sorry floyd i didnt mean too" tell him him you got plenty more of that **** all night...
    you deserved the ring justice you got....and hell yeah it was a cheap shot...but within the rules cheap shot...your head butts were even cheaper shots and against the rules....it sucks the fight ended that way...but Ortiz is to blame this time......
    just my opinion , what do i know :D
     
  2. globenerd

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    Here's the thing though. Yes, Ortiz was being a *****. But the referee handles that, and he did so. If he kept doing it, then he would've been DQ'd, and justifiably so.
    That's ring justice. It's most definitely not what Mayweather did.
    Some people act like he's the first ATG to be fouled in a match. You think nobody ever took a cheap shot at SRR, SRL, Ali, Louis etc. Yet none of them ever did what Floyd did.

    He'll go down as an ATG, but he'll never be mentioned 20 years from now in the great GOAT debates.
     
  3. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've criticized the hell out of Floyd too but I agree with all of this. :deal
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i said it was a cheap shot, sucker punch...he knew Ortiz wasnt looking and his hands were down...but thats on Victor.....Victor ****ed up...lost his cool very early.....and I cant feel bad for him...if floyd did this after an accidental clash or simply after a refs warning as he huddles both together..he would have been looked at as evil....but letting the ref handle things after being ram rodded in the jaw with his giant head...is kinda wishful thinking....how many times did the ref warn abner mares for low blows ? and you are right..his legacy will be a little better than Joe Calzaghe...not fighting any great fighters only great names for most of your career...at least floyd a dangerous castilllo 2 times and diego corrales and genaro hernandez was a legit dangerous guy who was champ
     
  5. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes- and on top of it Ortiz is not the saint HBO propaganda painted him to be. And you know what, I would bet Mayweather isn't the douchebag to the degree 24/7 painted, he is likely a lesser degree of douche.

    I think the HBO propaganda actually got under Mayweather's skin last night. I mean the dude flagrantly butts him and then proceeds to rub his nuts 3 times... Eye for an eye baby!
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    yeah no doubt.....floyd is only that angry miserable unfunny ***** when hes around 30 of his disciples that are paid to laugh...or when a camera is filming him..... he want like that at all before 24/7 came out with his fight with DLH....he felt he had to hype it as the bad guy..he was always the pretty boy...always smiling...its a character that he somehow cant turn off sometimes