Heres the thing about PPV...seriously

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    so many people complain about PPV. You guys need to realize there are only so many TV dates available. Example: this weekend. The Roy Jones PPV and the John Duddy PPV. Sure not too many people care about those PPVs, but there are some loyal fans that are willing to pay for it, so why not give them the option?

    Another example: Aug 4th and Sept 8th. The Morales PPV and Vargas-Mayorga are fights that networks are not willing to buy. What option is left? PPV. We cant always blame promoters for doing this, but the networks and the fact that there are not a lot of TV dates available.
     
  2. guillermojm

    guillermojm Member Full Member

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    if they are loyal fans dont you want to reward them by not ripping them off?

    ppv is almost as bad for boxing as don king
    it turns all the boxers into money hungry whores!
     
  3. doublesuited

    doublesuited Taylor TKO2 Pavlik Full Member

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    Isn't HBO showing Morales/Diaz and Showtime showing Vargas/Mayorga...?
     
  4. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Exactly what I was about to say..

    Morales/Diaz is the worst HBO PPV this year, especially since there's a very good chance that Morales is almost completely shot. The only reason this match isn't on regular HBO like it should be is because they know how strong Mexican support in America for Morales is.
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    WTF. Rip-off PPVs are good for the sport?? What's next, Don King's a saint??

    Oh, that's right, someone already tried THAT one! :patsch
     
  7. ...

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    you guys really dont understand. No networks will pay for the fight, so it will have to be PPV. Roy Jones doesnt belong on HBO or Showtime, so for the few fans that want to still see him PPV is the only option.

    And everyone thats responded in this thread you are all very ignorant. HBO and showtime dont have to pay a dime for PPVs. If Morales-Diaz was on HBO, HBO would have to pay a license fee. With it being on PPV they dont have to pay a dime.

    So everyone of you guys need to understand how this business works.
     
  8. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    I'm starting to think you joined this forum just to see how people try to argue seriously with ******ed threads. My favorite was when you said PBF should give Gatti and rematch.
     
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    do you not understand what I typed?? Its 100% fact.

    lets say your a promoter. No network is willing to buy Morales-Diaz. What to you do???? Go without telivision??? Seriously think about it.
     
  10. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    Sorry, I can't argue seriously with a guy who said Gatti would beat Floyd in a rematch.
     
  11. ...

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    HAHAHA. you have nothing you are wrong, you know it and thats why you said that and nothing else. You cant argue cuz your wrong.
     
  12. JoeyP

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    Instead of putting crappy fights on PPV, how about putting them on ESPN or Foxsports or something.

    The REAL problem with PPV is that they have NO motivation to give us better fights when they know they can sell us **** fights. Why put out a better product when you can sell the shitty one? Anyone who paid for the Jones PPV instead of watching the HBO card has more money to waste than he knows what to do with.
     
  13. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dear...,
    You are wrong.When an event is distributed by HBO or Shotime on a PPV basis your God damned right they pay a fee.Lets start with production costs and advertising costs.Then they must distribute all this through cable and satellite providers at a percentage off the top of sales.Then there is the talent and transportation fees.Then should they do a countdown piece on their network to hype the fight ,who do you think pays for that.Not the promoter.A very heavy investment for any HBO or Sho PPV event,trust me.This is why the Jones fight was NOT a HBO PPV and instead they went independent.Because the cost factor was too high for the little amount of money they would NOT get back.:deal
     
  14. El Bombasto

    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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    I would prefer more fights on free tv
     
  15. Kostya Zoo

    Kostya Zoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WTF are you talking about? Morales-Diaz is on HBO PPV. HBO bought it and decided it is PPV worthy, and will be charging $49.99 for it. Same goes for the Showtime Vargas PPV. They decided these fights should be PPV because they think they can make more money this way.

    These are different from PPV's like the Roy Jones PPV of last weekend. This fight, nobody wanted. The promoters only option to get a TV broadcast was to offer a small PPV. But if HBO or Showtime are involved, then the PPV has major network backing and could easily be on "free" HBO or Showtime. Again, the reason they decide it's PPV is because they've determined they can make more $$ This way.