Here's what Hearns-Margarito would look like

Yea, whatever you say junior. Your stupid attempts to rile me after proving you to be wrong just go to show how much it stayed with you. Attempting to make a remark about me in this thread clearly shows your angry, juvenile mind.

 

Trying to compare Margs with the `Blade` is apples and oranges. Barkley would break Margs like a breadstick. Barkley was a big strong middleweight. Again at middle, Hearns wasn`t as dominating. I still say, that the Hearns who blitzed Cuevas, and left Duran a quivering wreck. Would have hurt and finished Margs. You have to remember, Margs would be eating Hearns piston like jab, while trying to get in.It took Leonard 14 rds. to get to Hearns, and Ray was a helluva boxer himself. And he had blinding speed. At welter, if you were hittable , and you went straight at Hearns. Fight over...

 

Don't tell that to Ambition_Deaf, he'll discredit you as an alias of mine.

 

I would say that a WW Margarito has a better chin than a MW Roldan. Hagler and Nunn were skilled tactitians who weren't necessarily know as punchers, so giving them trouble doesn't mean having the better chin. Otherwise that same logic would apply for a MW Duran for giving Hagler fits. Cintron and Cotto threw every punch in the book at Margo only to get koed. Margarito is a huge WW and Hearns would have to melt down to 147. At MW this would be an obviously is a mismatch, but I think at 147 Margarito would take some good shots and come back with his own fire. Leonard proved at that weight (as Hagler did at MW) that if you could take Hearn's shots and become the aggressive that eventually you could get him out of there. Now I know Leonard is a much better boxer than Margo, but he was the smaller man who had to turn himself into a swarmer to get the job done. Again, I'm not saying it's the likely outcome, but in boxing ANYTHING is possible and a Hearns blowout is not a given.

 

I think Hearns would take out Marg. @ 147. He had too many weapons on offense and great speed and he hit much, much harder than Cotto. Roldan, while he lasted looked faster and a bit more talented than Marg., and this fight was @ 160.

????? to you all. Comparing rounds 1-4 of this fight and Mrg/Cotto, did the Hearns/Roldan fight look faster and more intense? I thought it did.

 

It was more intense but that's because Roldan was a wild savage in there. He just leaps in and gives up his own room as he's moving in. That's why I said he reminded me alot of Lujan.

Margarito is serious pressure but he doesn't suffocate his punching. He will take some rounds to find his range and then he will start to work. This is why he's always a slow starter. Hearns would have to find him early (no problem) and hurt him badly (might happen) and stop him (big questionmark). If he didn't get through with all of that then Margarito could likely have found his range by round 4-5 and could start landing in accumulation. I would say too that Hearns wasn't as cute defensively as Cotto. More like a Cintron where he didn't have much fight inside. So probably about round 5 we'd see Margarito finding him inside.

 

Paul Williams doesnt have near the one punch KO power of Herans or the speed or the boxing ability. He outpointed and outlanded Margo and took his title. How on earth does Margo survive one of the hardest punching welters in the histoy of boxing. Pipino Quevas hit harder and boxed more than Margo and was blasted in 2 so would Margo within 5. Margos weaknesses play right into Hearns strength and he has the knockout drops for good measure.

 

Margarito never fought anyone of substance until he faced a relative unknown - Paul Williams. Margo loses to Williams. Margo then beats a good but not great fighter - Cotto. Yet somehow he beats Hearns, an ATG, by TKO? Get real people.

 

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Originally Posted by splatter69
Ive never seen this fight but just doin a little boxrec search. This guy went the distance with Hearns. Maybe he was more of a boxer with a good defense or somthing, but his record isnt great and he saw the final bell. Before Hearns got to him he had been Koed a few times already.Please enlighten me on it. I am a huge fan of Margo and think his chin is stellar. While not impossible that Hearns can KO him It is also not impossible for Margo to last.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...=393&cat=boxer


Any info on this guy? I`m not sayin margo will or will not win this, but thinkin he might be able to go the distance if the above guy did. Unless the above guy went into a shell after tastin tommys power or somthin.

Quoting myself from another thread in here. Still no one has answered me. If the above dude can go 12 with Tommy why is it so inconcievable to you guys? He had been koed 5 times before Tommy got to him. Tommy was 17 and 0 with 17 kos.
Alfonso Hayman was 24-14-4.
He had lost by ko 5 times prior to the Hearns fight. 2 were lost by ko back to back then he won 2 before he went the full 12 with Tommy.

4 fights after Tommy he retired The man was at the end of his career with 2 kos in the last 4 fights 1 year before the hearns bout and he went 12. Why is it so inconcievable that Margo can do what that guy did and last 12 when hes never been hurt ? Kinda reminds me how he was given no chance agaqinst Cotto. Look how that turned out.

Am I saying he can definately last 12? No.Can I definately say he cant?No.

Why is it so hard to imagine him doing so?

Admittedly Ive never seen the Hearns Hayman fight. Maybe there is more to it than it appears. I detest using boxrec sometimes and you cant get the full story. Maybe hearns hurt his hand or somthing...who knows. Can anyone ple enlighten me?

Edit. Just saw this cool site. Gonna download the Vid of the fight myself and see. Any input still welcome of course. Not sure if i can post the link of the site . Oh well

 

At 147 Hearns beats Margo like he Lacyfied Pipino Cuevas.

 

did you hear that ****ing right hand in round one...what the ****.. I heard that **** through the shakey ass distorted sound.

 

That cements that ****. Margarito lost to a generic Tommy Hearns.

 

The knockdown was bogus, as you probably know!
But Hagler was definately feeling Roldan's
power in there. For the first three rounds, Roldan
was really leathering Hagler. I remember
one uppercut in particular in the second round,
rocked Hagler, which is no easy thing to do.
Roldan was also a bit unlucky in the fight,
Hagler accidently thumbed him in the eye,
and it really affected him badly.

Against Hearn's, Roldan, was a punch or two away
from victory. Hearn's was in big trouble, but somehow
managed to pull it out of the fire with a great punch.

Roldan, had no jab or defence, but was as strong as an ox,
and he could bang with both hands.
He would have been a real handfull for anybody!
He was as exciting as hell to watch, as well.
I would have liked to see him in against Leonard,
or Duran. That would have been great!