Heres why Cotto lost

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  1. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I expected a picture of Cotto's chin! :nod
     
  2. surreal deal

    surreal deal Liverpool via Krypton Full Member

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    Honest and gracious mate.:good
    Youre right to proud of your boy:happy
     
  3. bmf95b

    bmf95b Boxing Fan Full Member

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    PUERTO RICO venga por su jente.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Cotto got crushed by the first opponent that was able to apply sustained pressure. That's what happened. Nothing would have changed that. Nothing.
     
  5. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    The only thing Cotto did not do (which he should have) was go to the body as soon as Margarito closed the gap. Cotto has far better footwork and speed, but he didn't use it on the inside.

    I think Cotto fell in love with his power and thought that Margarito would eventually succumb to it. Sorry, Margarito's brain is clearly not in his skull. I think his corner holds it for him during the fight.
     
  6. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Clearly? How do you know they were more powerfull?They were cleaner shots in my eye but more powerfull? Hell I don't know who threw the more powerfull punch but it was clear who can take a punch.

    I love how people pull **** out of tha air.
     
  7. Chibuku

    Chibuku I'm awesome Full Member

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    You are wrong,Margaritto was leaning forward so his ranch didnt come into play,he wasnt even using the jab that well.Margaritto went close and most of his shorts were from the inside.Cotto did everything apart from getting a baseball bat.

     
  8. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok.. I have to give you that one. Precise is probably what I meant. I agree. But usually with a fighter who throws sloppier punches (Margarito) they lose some of that Power with poor technique. See what Im getting at.
     
  9. slamhound

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    I'm with you there- it seems to me that Cotto throws very fast punches, and they look like there is more power (and certainly land more cleanly), but if you look at the footwork- Margarito is very well set on his feet when he lands his punches. I would say his punches are deceptively powerful. They look slower- but the footwork lends a lot of leverage to the punches.
     
  10. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem was far from Cotto trying to box his way to a win ! There's no way Cotto would have won going to war with Margarito, he's not the stronger fighter !

    The thing with Cotto is that he has good movement but still needs to plant his feet too long to throw his punches. On many occasions, he simply stayed put too long and gave Margarito too much time to unload ! That was his true downfall !!! Cotto got tired from Margarito's relentless pressure exactly as I was predicting ! He couldn't move as much as he wished later in the fight and the result to that is a TKO !!
     
  11. Mrboogie23

    Mrboogie23 what the?? Full Member

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    Cotto lost because Margo proved to be able to withstand his power and comeback with his own shots.

    Cotto was uncomfortable with the pressure and the fact that Margo wasn't going anywhere. He succumbed to the pressure. Its kind of hard to land a good bodyshot when you cant get your feet planted because there's a big mexican in your face throwing power shots.
     
  12. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem is that the way he fought was one extreme, which resulted in a loss.

    And I agree, if he had attempted to outbrawl, or go to war with Margarito, that also would be an instant loss.

    I'm not advocated soley one or the other, Cotto needed to Mix-it-up. Aka control the tempo. That means being the aggressor at times, AND boxing in others him. No matter what, this guy is going to have to take some punches!

    And again, when you rewatch the fight, when Cotto goes forward and is aggressive, he causes Margo to cover up, hence stopping his attack! So its not really brawling or mixing it up with him, he needed to be more aggressive to STOP MARGO from attacking. Other then boxing, his best defense WAS his offense, but he never used it.

    He's not Pernell Whitaker for christ's sake! SO no this strategy was not "the best he could do" or "his best fighting option". So he should have been the determiner and initiator of when he would mix it up with Margo, rather then letting Margo have the aggression.
     
  13. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem is that the way he fought was one extreme, which resulted in a loss.

    And I agree, if he had attempted to outbrawl, or go to war with Margarito, that also would be an instant loss.

    I'm not advocated soley one or the other, Cotto needed to Mix-it-up. Aka control the tempo. That means being the aggressor at times, AND boxing in others him. No matter what, this guy is going to have to take some punches!

    And again, when you rewatch the fight, when Cotto goes forward and is aggressive, he causes Margo to cover up, hence stopping his attack! So its not really brawling or mixing it up with him, he needed to be more aggressive to STOP MARGO from attacking. His best defense WAS his offense, but he never used it.

    He's not Pernell Whitaker for christ's sake! SO no this strategy was not "the best he could do" or "his best fighting option". So he should have been the determiner and initiator of when he would mix it up with Margo, rather then letting Margo have the aggression.
     
  14. kflex101

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    NGood point and not only that, but strength and punching power are often completely seperate factors.
    Lacy vs Trinidad would be great examples, I'd lay some money down that Tito packs a harder punch, while in terms of outright strength Lacy would be twice as strong.
     
  15. kflex101

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    Good point and not only that, but strength and punching power are often completely seperate factors.
    Lacy vs Trinidad would be great examples, I'd lay some money down that Tito packs a harder punch, while in terms of outright strength Lacy would be twice as strong.