Here's Why The Resume Of P4P No. 1 Lomachenko Trounces Bud Crawford's By A Country Mile.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Another one in need of updating.:confused:
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I've been meaning to get round to it.

    Here's a recent post of mine that I was planning on including as part of the update


    I don't recall ever seeing Crawford scoring any HL reel one punch finishes in any of his 12 world title fights (ie. when he started fighting live bodies, relatively live in some cases) which is odd given he has a reputation of a bit of a puncher and he often has a significant or considerable weight and reach advantage over his opponents. He might have scored one during his pre-world title fights but I can't think of one among them off the top of my head either.

    Here's ''non puncher'' Loma scoring 2 spectacular HL reel KOs against opponents who not only outweighed him by 7lbs (or maybe even more in Crolla's case) but one was a reigning world champion (Loma's first fight at the weight) and the other a former world champion and both of them were very durable fighters too.

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    Why can't puncher Bud do that to any of his opponents, most of whom he's heavier and longer than?

    So ''non puncher'' Loma has scored 2 HL reel one punch out cold or almost out cold KOs against opponents he was giving away at least 7lbs to and was at a reach disadvantage against, both of whom were either current or former world champions and are very durable, but Bud never has despite him often having a significant weight and reach advantage over his opponents.

    How many more spectacular HL reel one punch KOs would Loma have on his CV if he had a significant weight and reach advantage over his opponents like Crawford often does? Yeah he had a significant weight advantage over Rigo but the Cuban is one of the greatest defensive fighters of all time and Loma wasn't putting much power in his shots and trying to KO him.

    And Loma was fighting injured (or hadn't recovered fully from an injury and wasn't able to throw his most powerful punch much ie. the right hook that he scored 2 spectacular HL reel KOs with) in 2 of his fights that have gone the distance (Pedraza and Piriyapinyo). No way the 8-9lb heavier Pedraza would last the distance against Loma with 2 good arms and Piriyapinyo, who Loma fought one-handed for half the fight IIRC, had already been dropped by Loma when the later started to turn the heat up which he couldn't maintain because he injured his hand 2 rounds later.

    Crawford was a gigantic 135 pounder who rehydrated as much as 18lbs when he campaigned down there didn't stop Klimov who he had 9lbs on, Beltran who he had 6lbs on, or Burns (don't know he weights for that one). I'd back lightweight Loma to stop at least 2 of those guys if not all 3 and this is despite him only rehydrating about 3lbs after the weigh in at 135 (he looked very healthy and full-faced at the weigh in for his last fight) and him being the significantly lighter man against 2 of those guys, and slightly lighter against the other. Beltran, who Crawford had 6lbs on, would have about 9lbs on Loma and Burns would have a least that on him. But imagine what Loma would do to them if he had a 6-9lb advantage over them?

    Loma scored spectacular one punch HL reel KOs against 2 significantly heavier fighters at 135, both of whom were very durable and either current or former world champions, Crawford hasn't done that once against opponents he usually has a significant weight advantage over.

    And the Linares KO was a one punch finish (no one has KO'd Linares with a body shot before and has anyone who was at least 7-8lbs lighter than him ever KO'd him? Loma fighting with a serious shoulder injury from the 2nd round onward scored a one-punch finish against a much heavier opponent in what was Loma's first fight at the weight and a super talented one who held every physical advantage over him, something Crawford knows nothing about.

    Moves up in weight to 130 and scores a spectacular HL reel one-punch KO against the 7lb heavier Martinez who was a reigning world champion

    Moves up to 135 and score a pretty spectacular HL reel one-punch finish against Linares who had at least 7lbs on him and was a reigning world champion, whilst fighting with a serious injury for most of the fight.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Quality stuff, go ahead and edit it in whenever you're done with it. I'll get mine written probably sometime in the next two or three days, not sure, whenever I have time to let my brain cool off and think, which is rare.
     
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  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks, I will do it when my work is complete lol
     
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  5. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    One of Loma’s notches on his belt keeps shining brighter! More proof that this thread is spot on.

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    “My father always told me intellek over afletisicism. Never fight down to your composition.” ~ Gary Russel Jr

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  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i try to never get in a fight with a composition. i mean, how would you beat one? maybe a better composition?
     
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    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Lol :D Not sure. Maybe gary or his pops know. :lol:
     
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  8. Smoochie

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    So... how does this thread compare their resumes now after many years passed and basically both of 'em are at the tail's end of their careers?
    Loma kinda seems to be disheartened after his controversial loss to Haney yet he dismantled George jr. easily while Terence is foamin for that Clenelolose fight yet idk how many fights they have left.
    Great job Op(s), we need an update on dis one.
     
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  9. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never been a Loma fan but it's clear his resume is still better than Bud's

    Bud's signature wins are Madrimov, the post-car crash corpse of Spence, and Porter in his final fight before retirement

    Loma's 130 run and wins over Pedraza and Linares before they were shot are already better than what Bud has done
     
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  10. Mr Applebee

    Mr Applebee Active Member Full Member

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    I’m not a fan of bud or Loma, but Lomas resume and standing is clearly superior to Buds.

    Bud annoys me as I was extremely excited to follow his career when i first went to watch him live vs Ricky Burns in Scotland. I remember thinking of the exciting fights he’d be in over the next few years. That was over ten years ago and his career has been a massive anti-climax. I am sure most of the blame for that is on his team/promoter and not him personally. Spence is his best win, but Spence is still unproven really when you think about it. Spence and Bud were both perceived to have the potential of being great, but neither has been able to prove it. They’ll both be forgotten in 15-20 years from now unless Crawford does something extraordinary in the next year or two. Given his activity over the past few years, I can’t see him doing all that much tbh
     
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  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm ranking Bud ahead of Loma for the same reason I have Wladimir Klitschko a top10 ATG HW, longevity and dominance matters.

    Lineal champ at 135, 17-0 with 16 KOs at 140&147 going undisputed in both, becomes a 4th weight champ against arguably the best fighter at 154(I've been quoted here backing Madrimov to beat Charlo and Tszyu long before he fought Crawford). That's an impessive CV, even the names on the resume aren't great.

    Loma's resume has better name value, but he wasn't nearly as dominant aside from his run at 130 and we can't pretend like losses didn't happen either.

    I also happen to believe Crawford, along with Usyk, are the best fighters in the world and Loma is half a step behind them. Does anyone believe Usyk would've lost to Huck had he gotten a shot at him in his 2nd pro fight? Absolutely not.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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