Here's Why The Resume Of P4P No. 1 Lomachenko Trounces Bud Crawford's By A Country Mile.

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  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, why are we ignoring the PED scandal that busted Gamboa, conveniently enough, before the Bud fight?
     
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  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I have to say I have never understood the adulation for Bud. Damned good fighter, mean as a junkyard dog but ATG? Come on. He is a top fighter, no question but I saw him do a dance in one of his fights on a so-so punch. I think Crawford's chin is exposed when he gets in with some real bangers.

    I agree, I think Loma is head and shoulders above Bud.
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was he ever proven guilty? Did he test positive?
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    His name was on a list of some doctor in Miami they busted for running a PED program for athletes. Don't think anyhing came of it, but its not a good look.
     
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  5. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Nothing came out of it. Rock is doing every little thing he can do to discredit Crawford's win over Gamboa. **** you @Rock0052
     
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  6. Willie Maeket

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    I have no opinion in this matter because the real winner is Bob Arum and Top Rank Promotions for having you HOrMOneS fighting over which one of his guys is the best and they are in different division's totally.
    I wish I knew everyones address so I can send you all a box of dollar store tampons for your leaking vagina's.
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmao.

    'Twas no work on my end since i wasn't the knucklehead who juiced the hell out and got busted when a BioGenesis employee ratted out the client list.

    It's funnier to see you dance in circles around it when Gamboas decline hit when he got outed.

    But...but...that inactivity doe! The management doe! Gamboa just "got old!" . Cry me an f'ing river. Bud walked through the little juicer like the hype job he was. Popeye without his spinach. That was 2014 Gamboa. I'm glad Bud knocked him the hell out.
     
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  8. Rock0052

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogenesis_baseball_scandal

    Boxing is toothless, but that doesn't mean he was innocent. The evidence was enough for baseball to drop the hammer on 13 players for 50 games or longer. Their doctors did their jobs well, so there's no reason he'd have tested positive- just like BALCO.

    Addition: the scandal popped multiple MLB all stars and one of the biggest fish in the sport in A-Rod, who got suspended for a year. That's the scandal Gamboa got nailed by. His involvement only gets ignored because no reporters who like being able to pay for food would choose to focus on Gamboa, who 98% of them haven't even heard of, over A-Rod.
     
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  9. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I have and I remember your rabid defence of Crawford, who whilst a 2 weight world champion has ruled in 2 of the weakest divisions at the time in boxing.

    What you call "facts" are anything but.
     
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  10. Farmboxer

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    Lomachenko is far more impressive than Crawford. Hell, Crawford refused to fight Spence or Porter, instead taking the easiest fight in the division, someone who is not a boxer, not on a pro level, had the pure Hell beaten out of him by Pac, the ref almost stopped it, but Pac was badly robbed! So, this is Crawford's greatest fight, Horn? Not even a good amateur, would lose to a woman, a child and kangaroo! This is WWE, it's like Conor and Void, a sick joke and Uncle Bob is laughing at the fans. I will not watch that fight, it is not a fight, it's a disgrace, a total disgrace, a mismatch and even if Horn could fight, and won, no way could he get a decision in Vegas, no way.....................the judges have already filled out their cards
     
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  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Great work, great thread. Crawford has a long way to catch up to Lomachenko's resume. Horn will be a good first step, but I'm thinking we could see an upset.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Same here, its really disturbing how easily the Boxing community write off a guy with a win bigger and better than anything on Crawford and Lomachenko's resume as an easy win. You wouldn't think you'd have to sit people down and explain to them the potential risks involved in this fight.
     
  13. Liquorice

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    Umhh.. Horn?! There are posts of you laughing at Jeff Horn! He's yet to beat him anyway so it's not a win you can credit him with...

    I actually think p4p is not solely based on resume. Otherwise Horn on paper has a better win than both if you are a boxrec warrior who doesn't understand context. I assume you're not arguing Horn>Crawford are you?! LOL

    Careful, cos focusing entirely on resume is a slippery route & I am far more in awe of what VL is consistently doing in the ring (in terms of technicality, showmanship, craft & the 'no mas' & 12 fight's stuff etc too) than what TC is doing, regardless of the trading opponent's arguments.. & even then I favour Lomas opponents for many of the reasons set out in the OP.
     
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