Hernan Marquez-Brian Viloria, who you got?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Nov 15, 2012.


  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I agree with every word here pal. I know people like to make a big deal out of who the lineal champ is but when you consider the recent opposition of these two and the fact they're taking on each other whilst the lineal title was most recently completed between two journeymen there's no legit argument in ranking iga above these two.
     
  2. Jack

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    I think Marquez will win, though it's a hard fight to pick. I remember Viloria being a big prospect around 2005 but then it all went sour, before the unexpected with over Archie. Tough fight to pick but my doubts over Viloria, possibly unfairly, still remain, so I'm saying Marquez late stoppage.

    Gonzalez will beat them both though, I think. Here's hoping his undercard fight leads to a bout with the winner.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :nod Igarashi needs to do a lot more than lift a belt off freaking Sonny Boy Jaro (who never really was a worthy champion, just caught Pong on the downslide) to be in the conversation with even the loser of Viloria vs. Marquez, let alone whichever one unifies.

    As for Mthalane, since his own title reign began against Pingo three years ago he's piddled around with maybe the weakest set of barely acceptable contenders going. He was also damn lucky to escape intact against Nunez.
     
  4. EuroBot

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    Viloria late TKO or UD.
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Totally agree. Jaro was a poor champ who never deserved his shot. The same will be said for iga in my opinion. I'm sure some will spout out about lineage but the reality is we have the two best fighters in a great fight and I'm glad it's getting the publicity it deserves.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, Viloria's knocking on the p4p door if he wins this one.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    If he destroys him as he did Segura he'd surely be a p4p top ten lock.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :deal

    An incredible streak of four, if he pulls it off.
     
  9. Boxed Ears

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    He's kind of been knocking. I'd have him in sooner than Dawson at the time of the Ward lead-up. I didn't rate that version of BHOP he got back in with (Ring and for many) very highly at all. I think if he wins, he should be in.
     
  10. McGrain

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    Those things tend to iron themselves out though, by which I mean the Dawson problem has been taken care of. Froch, Cotto, Wlad and Bradley make his corridor crowded though. This one puts him over the top.
     
  11. McGrain

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    You got me thinking about this now.

    If we say Floyd, Many, Ward, Martinez, Donaire and Marquez are all clearly above him...

    Then we've got Mares, Froch, Wlad, Bradley, Cotto, and Viloria to pick the other four from. Yeah, I think you could unquestionably pick Viloria as one of the other four to fill out these rankings. Mares, man of the moment should probably be in there, Wlad, extremely dominant should probably be in there, Bradley beat Pac (or whatever) so you have to have him in there. So Froch V Cotto V Viloria for the last spot. Cotto, just lost and is past-prime...easy to leave out. So it's the agony of Froch or Viloria. Froch has been matched even harder but he's lost. But it seems mad harsh leaving Froch out.

    Come Sunday morning though the problem could be over.
     
  12. chimba

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    Great fight 50/50. I am actually hoping for a Marquez win so that Saludar can step up and reign in this division.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    It's tough because cotto and froch lost to guys rated above them p4p so in essence guys they should lose to.

    I agree with your locks and I'd have wlad next. Mares, cotto and viloria fight for spots 9 & 10 imo.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

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    Yeah, we're on the same page with all of this. It's all gone through my mind thinking about the fairest ranking too.

    :lol:
     
  15. bazza12

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    I like Mares but he's had to eke things out in a lot of his fights. Moreno is his signature win up to now. Outside of that I don't think he's done enough, the only other really class win I'd say he's had is Agbeko.