Hernandez (JMM Coach): I've created 20 Different drugs that are still undetectable

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  1. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    JMM and Manny are both steroid cheats in my book.
     
  2. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They both could be cheating, but can you honestly tell me that Mayweather wouldn't do some **** like this?

    I mean, neither one of them are saints.

    If this is in fact the case, I have to commend Mayweather on his intelligence.

    Still though, I would prefer that nobody cheats, but what can you do?

    I think testing is still a good idea.
     
  3. fastfist

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    I'm no drug expert, but IMO nothing still beats "nature foods" because our body is all natural. PEDs, just like drugs you get from pharmacists, usually do more harm than good. If ever they may seem to show some very promising results it would more likely be placebo effect or "sweet effect"; at first you feel good but later on you feel twice as bad. It could all possibly be psychological. People taking these drugs may think they are stronger or have more energy because they know they are taking special supplements thus are able to train hard and do more.

    SPIEGEL: Can drugs make anyone into a world record holder?

    Heredia: No, that is a misapprehension: “You take a couple of tablets today and tomorrow you can really fly.” In reality you have to train inconceivably hard, be very talented and have a perfect team of trainers and support staff. And then it is the best drugs that make the difference. It is all a great composition, a symphony. Everything is linked together, do you understand? And drugs have a long-term effect: they ensure that you can recover, that you avoid the catabolic phases. Volleyball on the beach might be healthy, but peak athletics is not healthy. You destroy your body. Marion Jones, for example ...

    IN OTHER WORDS, JUST LIKE ALL OTHER TYPICAL ENERGY DRINK COMMERCIALS ITS ALL FALSE ADVERTISEMENTS. AND EVEN IF THESE DRUGS DO WORK IT WONT MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE...

    SPIEGEL: Of eight runners ...

    Heredia: ... eight will be doped.
     
  4. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry but I don't follow. What is not true?
     
  5. boxr

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    Lol..This drama with floyd, pac and the drug testing is going to drag on for so long, and I think pac is going to get the bad end of the stick every time. Regardless if he passes the test, and even if he wins the fight against floyd (and that's a big if), people would probably still argue, "Damn, so he passed the test, huh. So that stuff he's using must be that good."

    Well this supports the notion that at any level sports being played today, there will always be a level of doubt, not on how good a player could perform, but on how "good the drugs" that got him where he/she is today. And I think everyone suspects any high-level player of doping (pac, and even floyd included). That's probably what everyone will only agree on.

    On another topic....Do they also use drugs on mental sports/games like Chess? That'd be awesome to see a high and bulked up chess player now would it? Lol
     
  6. SweetHome_Bama

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    I'm pretty sure Aaron Pryor was the beneficiary of PEDs from Panama Lewis.
     
  7. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    "the one I mixed" :rofl:rofl
     
  8. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And the reason team Pac dont give a ****, because theyre at it as well.
    The mayweathers can say some stupid ****, but they know about Pac.
    You dont go from being a decent puncher with decent punch resistance at 130 to someone who walks through guys at 147.
    He's a cheat, and I as a huge Marquez fan am on one hand dissapointed if as looks likely hes at it too, but on the other hand think fair enough, why just let Pac have such an advantage.
     
  9. Brauer

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    This adds another intresting competition to the sport.
     
  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Undefeated with them good ass PED shakes. Featherfisted as **** though, 0-0 with 0KO's. :lol:
     
  11. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he's exaggerating. however testing is pretty weak. even the mayweather testing regimen he is forcing other fighters to take. suppose its better than nothing.
     
  12. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Floyd didnt follow Occams razor. The regular tests were already in place and yet he asked for more complicating matters.
     
  13. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  14. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Do you guys think Pac/Marquez had a ped agreement. It is funny that they don't mention anything about a known steroid dealer in other fighters corner.
     
  15. deaman

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    Mayweather: Doping.

    Pacquiao: Doping.

    Marquez: Doping.

    Hopkins: Doping.


    They are all f'ing doping. Some are snitches like Floyd, who dope and then accuse others of doing it. Other's are quiet about it like Pacquiao, who dopes but follows the "unwritten agreement" between top level fighters that they are all doping.

    Fact is, any world class athlete today is using PEDs. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.