Herol Graham underated?

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  1. pne buz

    pne buz Active Member Full Member

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    Just mentioned him on another thread so i thought id do this.The man had supreme talent but never captured a world crown.He ran Mike McCallum close in a split decision,boxed Julian Jacksons ears off before copping for a pearler in the 4th and lost to Charles Brewer who bravely rallied after being outboxed.He also lost a ridiculous points decision for the European crown against an Italian whos name escapes me.
    Graham was frozen out of the Benn/Eubank/Watson roadshow also.Warren claimed that Benn and Eubank were the best but chose to pit them against each other and various other British make weights whilst not entertaining Toney,McCallum,Jones,Nunn,Jackson etc.
    So the question is was Herol Graham unlucky,underated or shy of world level.And how do you think he would of fared against the best Britain had to offer had he been given the chance!
     
  2. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    On the subject of him Vs Britain's finest...

    Didn't Eubank say he sparred with Graham and got his head boxed off? Think he said he never even layed a glove on him.
     
  3. pne buz

    pne buz Active Member Full Member

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    I think the same happened with Alan Minter when Graham was young!
     
  4. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Graham was out of the British loop being an Ingle fighter

    He wasn't the first and certainly not the last (cough, Junior)

    He was a bloody good fighter and would easily snaffle a belt these days, no drama. The Jackson loss was just devastating, he had utterly boxed his ears off and Jackson's eye was shut, he only had to survive a round or two more and Jackson would've been pulled out.

    Let's put it this way, he was more 'Hamed level' than 'Witter level', in my opinion.
     
  5. Lucky Punch

    Lucky Punch New Member Full Member

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  6. TFFP

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    Extremely so

    It is easy to cast him aside as a nearly man. I'm pretty sure McCallum said he was his toughest fight, and McCallum has fought a few decent fighters in his time. It is true Eubank said he was one the best gym fighters he has ever seen

    He was a great defensive fighter, and probably the one of the slickest and most skillful fighters Britain has ever produced. One has to see him in action rather than simply to gaze over his record to appreciate what a fighter he was, and his standing in British boxing history
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Spot on he was the epitome of Brendan Ingles defensive genius. I don't think he was as good as Benn or Eubank though. Sparring is one thing, fighting is another and he didn't seem to have the pop to be a major player at world level. Lovely to watch at times but not in a smooth stylish way.
     
  8. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think in terms of pure skill he was better than Benn and Eubank.
     
  9. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  10. Scratch

    Scratch Active Member Full Member

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    Don't know if he's underrated, he had (some) chances and came up (just) short.

    Doesn't bother me though, he's still one of my all time favourite fighters. I see him beating Eubank but Benn probably catches up with him sooner or later.
     
  11. faisal

    faisal Hoolios daddy Full Member

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    i feel for the guy he always came up short in the big fights had his chin been a bit stronger he could have gone far
     
  12. columbo man

    columbo man Active Member Full Member

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    i thought the guy was absolute class!!!
    i remember that in training he used to invite people into the ring to try and hit him while he had his hands tied behind his back.
    his skills were very much underrated but i can never forget that jackson fight, he was on the verge of winning that until jackson landed that jackpot punch!!!!
     
  13. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    He was a better fighter than Benn and Eubank fullstop. In fact, so was Michael Watson.
     
  14. 9Ball

    9Ball Smeghead Full Member

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    Graham was very underrated imo. His skills were undeniable, so quick and slick. Unfortunately the devastating Jackson ko will be what I remember his career for :? If he could have just stayed clear for a little longer it could have catapulted him into some major big fights and really earned himself a name and a few quid to boot!! :deal

    Bomber was also a true gent and genuine nice guy out of the ring and puts some of todays 'pros' to shame.

    :cool:
     
  15. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    No, he blew ONE chance big time. Losing very close decisions against truly brilliant fighters like Mike McCullum and Sambu Kalambay does not constitute blowing chances. Benn would have been outclassed by both fighters, and Eubank too. And a hopelessly past his peak Graham was beating Brewer more decisively than Calzaghe did before getting caught late on. Graham is probably the best British 160/168 fighter of the last 50 years despite the lack of a world title. Michael Watson and Calzaghe are fighting it out for second.