Herol Graham vs Joe Calzaghe prime for prime

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dunky McCafferty, Jul 5, 2008.


  1. TFFP

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    Eubank was still slick, and awkward too

    Hopkins is still slicker than most will ever be. Constantly on the move, firing from awkward angles, when did you ever see a jab bother Hopkins? It doesn't, because he's slick.

    And how many "slicksters" do you expect him to fight? They don't grow on trees you know. Put it this way, the only slickster Hatton fought knocked him the hell out.
     
  2. JonOli

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    There is no question that there is a lack of slick/semi slick boxers on Joes resume; it stands out a mile.
     
  3. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Can't yourself and FatJoe discuss Calzaghe without mentioning Hatton?

    P.s The only P4P#1 Calzaghe fought....wait, he never has and never will. Hatton will have fought two and another guy in the top three by the time he retires.....all whilst Calzaghe tries to make money by fighting a shot RJJ, disgraceful.
     
  4. TFFP

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    Tell me the plethora of slicksters he was supposed to fight?

    The fact is, he has two on there, which is more than most. There just aren't many slick fighters, you have to be pretty physically talented to pull off that type of style.

    Hatton never faced a slick fighter in his career until he got starched by Mayweather. And I bring up Hatton becuase we've got to apply the same standards, wouldn't want anybody to be accused of hypocrisy.
     
  5. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    But somehow that is ammunition for his nuthuggers to prove how talented he is:patsch
     
  6. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    It's hard to resist when the likes of JonOli are around.
     
  7. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Calzaghe fought an OAP, got knocked on his arse and scraped a SD.

    Hatton fought a prime Mayweather, P4P#1, best of his era and got KO'd chasing the fight.

    Suggests to me that Calzaghe would struggle with a prime slickster too.

    Calzaghe could only dream of taking on the challenges that Hatton has.

    Hatton will have fought 4 P4P fighters by the time he finishes, 3 of which were #1, #1, and #3 respectively......that's awesome.
     
  8. TFFP

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    But the more you look into it, the more you see that by hook or by crook Joe gets the job done. Sometimes he looks great, sometimes less so, but he always adapts and pulls it out.

    Graham fell short too many times, and that is the basis for my pick. Adaptability, and mentality

    From a stylistic viewpoint Graham does cause a few problems, especially early when he is fresh and can counter Calzaghe. But eventually Calzaghe's work-rate will get to him as the pace drops, and with that hands down awkward style he'll struggle to avoid shots he was previously.

    8-4 Joe Calzaghe.
     
  9. TFFP

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    Calzaghe doesn't have to dream of anything. Hatton just has to dream he can get his ass back on that p4p list which is so important to you, because right about now he is where he deserves, while Joe sits comfortably at #2

    Must be desperately hard for you, but remove his ballsack from covering your little eyes and you'll see the truth you are so blind to :yep
     
  10. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    Fat Joe, I have been known to post the odd morning here & there, I do interact when I can, but when I usually feel like a good chat, everyone in Britain is tucked up in their beds with a mug of hot cocoa by their side!
    At least though me & my late night ESB cronies keep the place busy 24/7, & thats what makes the place so desirable to post in IMO, you can pop in at any time night or day & have a conversation about any fighter from these shores!

    The night time posters like me & my fellow nightowls dont get enough credit IMO, cos without us, the daytime crew wouldnt have anything fresh to sink their teeth into... at least when we post everyone has something fresh to read when they are tucking into their full english breakfasts, their scottish morning rolls & whatever you welsh & irish eat for their breakfasts also!

    We all do our bit.... Lets give the ESB nightowls some credit here!
     
  11. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Calzaghe would have the measure of Graham because he is fast and awkward himself - but he has more grit than Graham ever had.
     
  12. Fat Joe

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    Cuts both ways Dunky

    Cockles & Laverbread
     
  13. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    It certainly does FJ my good man, it certainly does!

    But hey, this is probably the busiest Saturday night/Sunday Morning I have ever encountered on here, everyones talking & stealing my late night limelight.
     
  14. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Never has one man been ranked so high, for doing so little.

    Lets just say Calzaghe beats RJJ and retires.

    Then Hatton beats Malignaggi and Pac.

    Hatton will undoubtedly have the better resume and history will look back favourably on him.
     
  15. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    I heard of laverbread, Im sure I seen someone recently on TV showing how its made.
    But **** those Cockles, everytime I seen someone picking them out of a shell when I was but a young man, it always reminded me of someone picking a snot out of their nose!