Herol Graham vs Joe Calzaghe prime for prime

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dunky McCafferty, Jul 5, 2008.


  1. TFFP

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    Are you sure about that?

    Who decides history? I hope they don't take a peek at your favoured p4p rankings.

    It's amusing these rankings are gospel when you are jizzing over Hatton fighting these p4p greats, but for Calzaghe GOD NO! :lol:
     
  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who's he fighting next?
     
  3. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    Not a foregone conclusion.

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    Anyone with a pair of eyes in their head will recognise Calzaghe is the better fighter.
     
  4. onourway

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    Various people decide history.

    In my eyes, Hatton will retire with a better resume than Calzaghe.....unless Joe drops this joke fight with RJJ/fights Pavlik afterwards. Hopefully all rational and sane people will agree with me.

    I'm not going to argue with Calzaghe's P4P ranking, I really don't think his achievements are that great, but for longevity and some of the wins he's FINALLY put on the board, I think it's acceptable. I think he benefits from Pavlik and Cotto's age though, because they do seem to be two guys who want the big fights and will be claiming the big wins, it's only their relative inexperience which is stopping them toppling Calzaghe.
     
  5. Fat Joe

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    Had some cockles this morning - very nice.

    Had laverbread last week for the first time since I was a kid - even nicer than I remembered - seaweed at it's best:yep
     
  6. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    What does 'better fighter' count for? Not a lot.

    People are judged on what they achieved, not what they could have achieved. Go on, mention 'skillset', I know you want to....

    I agree, not a foregone conclusion with either results, but if he does win, then I'd say his resume is better than Calzaghe's.
     
  7. Dunky McCafferty

    Dunky McCafferty Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hatton wont beat Pac. Pacs a monster, I have been telling everyone here this for years. hes frightening, one of the few fighters through the long history of boxing blessed with speed to thrill, power to kill & the heart of a lion.

    In fact, Im sure hes the greatest fighter that will exist in my lifetime. As i said earlier, Pacs a monster. A living legend. Im 35 years old, & I am sure I will never see a fighter as good as him by the time I die.

    I used to say Floyd was the best, but IMO Pacquiao surpasses him. What he did in his last fight was jaw droppingly awesome. Manny Pacquiao never ceases to amaze me, hes got it all. & its frightening.
     
  8. TFFP

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    And its only Hatton not having a very good resume or skillset that prevents him from even breaking into the top 10! :rofl

    You know, its awful being outside the top 10. Its so cold and lonely, not being one of the truely elite fighters on the planet. I bet Hatton wishes he was top 10 doesn't he? I bet he does. I don't think Cristian Mijares has even heard of Ricky Hatton right now, he feels his place is secure. In the top 10 of the p4p rankings that is.
     
  9. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Lets see him fight a live body at 135 first.

    There's a big difference between fighting a punchbag like Diaz and somebody like Hatton who's going to drive him back and overpower him.

    He is a great fighter though, but I can see Hatton making it a very messy fight and smothering Pac.
     
  10. JonOli

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    Are you aware that boxing on the inside, in and out of the clinch, is as much a boxing skill as boxing on the outside. If anyone could do it; everyone would do it.

    There are brawlers in the HOF too.

    You may think what Calzaghe does is hugely skilled, in your eye, but there are many others who think totally the opposite (outside of his stamina and punch output).

    Each to there own.
     
  11. onourway

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    Hatton was as high as 4 once.

    Boxing is fickle. One loss to the very best and all of a sudden you drop out of the top 10.

    If Calzaghe was ever to test himself against the very best, he might drop out of the top 10 too.
     
  12. TFFP

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    Yeah, I don't think its just that loss somehow, why you think he dropped from 4 to about 8? I think they considered the dead wood Hatton has been feasting on, and his struggles with Collazo. They finally ran out of patience, as they should have many moons ago

    Is he still in your top 10? Bet you have him 11 :lol:

    It's hilarious your fighter isn't part of the rankings you usually use to solidify any point you make. Yet Calzaghe's #2 :rofl

    Amuses me no end.
     
  13. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What does this thread have to do with Ricky Hatton anyway... some of you guys are obsessed about him...

    Herol Graham vs Joe Calzaghe prime for prime?
     
  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whose he fighting next?
     
  15. TFFP

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    Well, we were on subject until you came in ragging on Calzaghe and inferring he hasn't fought this and that, completely unfounded too I might add

    If you actually had any knowledge you'd know the one type of fighter Calzaghe hasn't faced is a true pressure fighter. He's fought his quota of slick fighters, considering the ratio of slick types to other styles

    Or how about your thoughts on the matchup, instead of coming in with some **** about what Calzaghe hasn't done? How about what he does, and what Graham did, and we might get some sense outta you yet