Herol Graham vs Tony Ayala Jnr at Middleweight

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by AlFrancis, Feb 27, 2010.


  1. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can the powerful but relatively green Ayala overome the unorthodox style and underrated punching power of The Bomber?
     
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  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In a ten rounder ill take Graham. 12 or 15 rounder ill take Ayala by late tko.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    herol all the way
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    I see how you'd draw that logical conclusion based on the fact Ayala never went beyond 10
     
  6. Flea Man

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    How do you know Ayala had the stamina though?
     
  7. laxpdx

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    Ayala by early-mid rounds KO. Tony just hit way too hard. Herol has slickness but not the muscle to keep Tony off. What Julian Jackson did, Tony does too.
     
  8. anarci

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    :lol::lol: He went the distance a few times and always fought strong in the end, Also I know that the dude is balls out for the entire fight, Regardless of what people say he wasnt just some chubster, he was a very strong dude. i know that he fits the sterotype as a mexican warrior who can go balls out for the entire fight. Even though Campas stopped him(when Ayala was off for 20 years) That was a truly fast pace pace and fierce fight. Very underrated and a forgotten fight probably the best ive seen on Friday night fights. Ayala would be behind early, but hed eventually get to Graham. i saw Pazienzas rough house tactics work against Graham and he was a panzy compared to Ayala when it came to rough house tactics. Yey Graham was slightly past it , but:think:think:think Im just thinking Ayalas bull like intensity, eventually carreis him through. But like i said earlier in a 10 round fight Graham probably out boxes him. But i would not rule out a Ayala early stoppage either.
     
  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if ayala carries on getting this praise he'll be better than greb and burley.
    graham would school him, unless he was wearing a skirt, in which case he'd lose by rapage
     
  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Slightly past it! It was about 10 yeaes after his peak.
     
  11. anarci

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    Im not putting Ayala on no atg status:nono Dont get me wrong he never had the resume. But there is no denying his talent . Ive seen enough of him against some decent opposition to say he would not be outclassed by the top guys. I think Leonard is the only one im sure about that beats a young Tony Ayala. Id pick the other great 3 also but i wouldnt bet the ranch on it.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

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    Graham KO1 - about as logical as the rest of the posts here. Ayala isnt fit to lick Grahams boots, McCallum didnt come close to stopping Graham in a close fight, comparative to McCallum, Ayala is feather fisted and skilless and is getting schooled and beat down

    Seriously what if Graham was as much as a **** as Ayala and got locked up when he was 35-0?
     
  13. duranimal

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    If this fight was video'd it would be number 1 in the training manual list for compulsive viewing as to see how to dissect an on-rushing wild swinging opponant, a 12 round exhibition bout this, could even see ayala blow up & break down weeping after 6:smoke

    A modern day comparison is Calzaghe/Lacy:deal
     
  14. WhataRock

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    Graham "slightly past it" against Pazienza..:lol:

    Come anarci fair go.
     
  15. laxpdx

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    Keep that sense of humor.