Hey boxing fans, y u no like action?

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Speaking of being a man...

Love the avatar. :smooch

 

*starts slow clap*

 

Manny actually has very good defense on the backfoot. The thing is, most of his opponents don't try to engage him.

The ones that do, get the ass beating of a life time.

People give guys like Floyd so much credit for being good defensively, and he is better than Pac, but he also doesn't whup his opponents ass like Pac does.

Not to mention, if Floyd had to get inside on people, like Pac does cuz his opponents run for their lives, he would take some shots too and look nowhere NEAR as good defensively as he is now.

People that need to get inside don't get enough credit for their defense.

Let me ask ya'll this.

Would ya'll rather come at Floyd or come at Pac?

Pac gives his opponents the worst beatings when they come at him. Floyd could only dream of bein able to deliver that type of ass whuppin.

Floyd is a fighter no doubt, but he ain't a fighter on Pac's level cuz Pac could whup your ass regardless of if it's boxing or MMA.

It don't matter.

Floyd can deliver ass whuppins too, but not on the same level as Pac.

 

It's was pretty much the Floyd fans who were bitching about **** like that. If it's anything that makes Floyd look bad, the *****s are quick to jump on it.

I'd take a more offensive fighter over a more defensive fighter anyday.

 

is that what your mom tells u when she tucks u into bed at night, slugger? :rofl:yep

 

This is fully dependant on what type of person you are and the reason you are in the ring.

If you are mentally strong then you would rather take on Mayweather, because the fact you will struggle to get near him and unless your mentally strong this will effect you big time. Lets just say you are stronger than him, it isn't going to matter because you won't hit him, if you weak ala ortiz you end up doing something silly.

Also if you in the ring for a payday you want Floyd to purely because you are going to leave the ring fully in tact, you might be outclassed and shown up but you will be very unlikely to have any crippling injuries.

If you are someone who can slug it out and want a better chance you prove yourself elite you want to be in the ring with pac, after all if you can hit it is alot easier to hit him, also the likelyhood of someone beating him is higher, still very low, but higher non the less than floyd.

My overall opinion on this thread is that many actual boxing fans appreciate the fact that defending is an art, the skill needed to do it properly is alot harder than being fast and being able to throw hard punches, everyone here will agree we love to see brutal knock outs, but there is nothing like watching a 12 round counter punching defensive masterclass.

 

You don't think Pac vs Margarito was a defensive masterclass?

How often did Pac get hit?

And the times he did get hit, he got his so he could dish out his own punches.

MOst of the shots that hit Margarito were not only hard punches, but they were counterpunches.

Put Mayweather in with a guy like Vernon Forrest or Tommy Hearns, and we'll see how good defensively he is.

It's a LOT harder if you are the one that has to MAKE the fight to WIN the fight.

And I disagree with what you said about slugging.

If you slug it out with Pac, you'll get the ass whippin of a lifetime.

You BOX Pac. You run from Pac. You don't fight Pac. You wait for Pac to make a mistake, then you capitalize. You don't initiate ****.

Expect Bradley to run too.

And punching can be taught to a certain extent. Most people just straight up don't know how to punch.

 

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I don't think it was a defensive masterclass, I think it was the fact that pac had power and speed advantage, nothing marg could do.

Mayweather is brilliant defensively, I don't think anyone can deny this, no matter who you put him in with, he has always adapted, we can both sit here and argue back and forth what would happen if he fought either of them, but really do we know? who says he can't adapt to them, who says he can? it's impossible to tell.

Yes of course boxing against him is the way to go, the point I was trying to make was if you have power you have more chance of hitting him than you do floyd, which is something you can't disagree with.

Everything can be taught, punching hard and pace is something what is easier to gain than boxing IQ.

 

There is nothing wrong with getting hit, it's just not the aim of boxing, boxers who get hit to hit will never last long, Canelo gets stick because he is a protected fighter, nothing to do with his style.

People 'rave' over JMM performance because he won more rounds, his punches were alot cleaner and he looked the better fighter, nothing to do with how many punches landed.

Cotto and Clottey was a close fight and could have gone either way, the different between this and JMM pac was cotto did enough, pac didn't IMO.

Corruption exists, I don't believe there was a fix however, If pac lost to JMM what would mainstream boxing have left, we all know that boxing doesn't work like triangles, but alot of people think it does, Mayweather outclasses JMM every round, pac loses to him, this leaves nothing for the general fan to get excited about.

I personally had Marquez winning, you could argue that pac won as it wasn't any more than a 7-5.