Hi all, my take on Haye v Ruiz

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  1. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    I posted on the general forum a few minutes ago, but my post got lost in the 'my boxer is better than your boxer' threads so I thought I'd start again here:


    Hi all, I registered on Eastside a few years back and I've read many posts since then. I've never posted here before, mainly because I was always a bit 'over-awed' by some people's knowledge of boxing. My own interest in boxing started when I was 13 and a British TV channel used to show the highlights of American bouts at 3am on a Monday night and I'd watch the TV under the duvet as I marvelled at a 17 year old Mike Tyson. Anyways, this was my take on the Haye v Ruiz fight:

    I posted the following on some random site straight after the fight:

    'Great performance by Haye. Some of the commentary was hyberbolic as you'd expect from Sky ('fastest Heavyweight since Ali'?), but Haye looked good and sent another message out to the Heavyweight division. God only knows how Ruiz got up from the first salvo, it was reminiscent of of the 1-2 Lennox Lewis delivered to Mike Tyson that left him looking dazed, confused and pathetic in equal measure (and I'm a huge Tyson fan). The Hayemaker is no All-Time-Great (yet) and his style leaves him looking amateurish at times, but the rest of him that looks professional does enough to get the job done and with some gusto.

    Bring on the Klitschko's. He may lose to either one of them, but it would still be a great spectacle and I doubt that at least one of them would have climbed from the canvas after that first 1-2 (yes, I'm thinking of you Wlad).'


    To add to that, I've read the round by round summary of the fight on here and a lot of people are saying he could never beat either of the Klitschko's fighting the same fight as he did tonight. I have no doubt that he'd struggle against either Klit employing the same style, but Haye has shown enough versatility in his last few fights and employing completely contrasting syles, to show that he isn't a one trick pony. The boy can punch, but he's also learnt when to take a breather or go all-out defensive.

    As for the initial knockdown, he maybe could have blasted Ruiz out of there, but I think the Carl Thompson bout taught him never to put all his eggs in one basket. Once he saw Ruiz get up, I think he decided to choose his moments wisely for the rest of the fight.
     
  2. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Just got back from the Fight absoloutely fantastic win by haye showed is explosiveness at the right time.
     
  3. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    Good for you! I've always wanted to go to a big fight but no-one I know is into boxing so I've always been stuck with watching it on TV ;-(
     
  4. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was pretty disappointed with him defensively....many times in that fight he was struggling a bit to keep Ruiz at range and surprisingly John was finding success with the jab more often than I originally thought, stamina too was a concern, Haye didnt seem to be working excessively hard but was blowing very hardly after 4 rounds. but hey, I dont want to but a downer on the performance....Offensively, I absolutely loved watching the fight...the 1-2 in the first was just perfect, lovely speed for a HW

    Of course the Klits would require a complete reversal in game plans, but I cant see Haye dealing with either Klits jab in a fight that lasts past 4....Only way I can see him beating Wlad is sparking him within 3.

    Ruiz is a tough ****er, so Haye did well to get him out of there before 12
     
  5. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    1- **** off
    2 - a bit gay
    3 - no. have you watched amateur boxing? its ****all like that. ps ATG?, just pointless to say it. **** off again
    4.5.6. couldnt be assed reading the rest, **** off


    p.s. welcome to the british forum
    (i didnt even get commentary, **** ****ing pub i was in)
     
  6. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good post mate. The General Forum's a load of bollocks anyway.

    I thought that wasn't even a David Haye at his best tonight but he still performed well. Stopping John Ruiz like that is quite impressive.

    I've heard Haye say before that he performs best against taller fighters. Let's hope he proves that against the Klitschko's!
     
  7. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    Umm, thanks to everyone's warm welcome apart from the poster that thinks that watching Mike Tyson under a duvet is gay. I suppose I have to qualify that by saying it was 3am on a school night and my mother would have **** a brick if she knew I was still up watching TV at the time. Anyone else remember that programme? I used to watch it religiously back when ITV used to have a test card.

    Anyway, thought it was probably the best fight involving Ruiz that I've seen and he actually looked like a good up-and-comer to follow if he hadn't already hugged his career down the pan. Haye looked about as good as he could, that will do me.

    Oh, and the reason I mention 'All-TIme-Great' and David Haye in the same sentence is because people who claim he is a great look like idiots, I'm just saying he has the potential but he's nowhere near it yet.
     
  8. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    :goodspot on. I have to say that the atmosphere at the MEN was quite something. It was really buzzing best 56 quid I have spent.
     
  9. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Welcome:good

    Yeah - Haye has definitely added entertainment at the world title level - I hope he doesnt face the Klitschovs for another 2 fights, until he gets used to the heavyweight division and gives himself the best possible chance agains the K-bros as they have significant size advantages over Haye, and I am not convinced, yet, that he can beat either of them.
     
  10. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    That is a good point but who will he fight in the mean time povetkin, chagev or another re match with valuev.:huh
     
  11. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    ignore it, im pissed. lots of abuse on these boards, ignore it all. unless you really are a ****. then **** off

    ps props again to ruiz, i was impressed and surprised about how he fought
     
  12. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chagev might be an option. Please God - no rematch with Valuev. If Rogan gets another couple of fights under his belt, he would give Haye a good nights work too.
     
  13. jc333

    jc333 Active Member Full Member

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    Good post mate.
     
  14. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    True.
     
  15. RedDragonBoxing

    RedDragonBoxing Ametuer Boxer Full Member

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    Why is everyone kissing hayes ass? was a boring ass performance. He could have had him out earlier but he was too afraid to let his punches go. All respect to Ruiz but at the end of the day it didnt impress me either of them.