High Def Kermit Jump Vid - what do you see?

When I saw the fight live, It looked to me like he jumped out. This video only enforces my view.

 

One question that is in my mind with all these discussions: If Kermit did not want to get hurt by Williams, why in hell would he voluntarily jump out of the ring and possibly hurt himself worse than any punch from Paul could ever do?

Jumping into the ringside table filled with monitors, pens and broadcast equipment exposes one to the possibility of getting cut, having a bone fracture and getting concussed with an unfortunate collision with any of the numerous sharp, hard edges in such a setting.

The two guys had exchanged big blows prior, Kermit felt Paul's punches as much as Paul felt his. I don't for a second think Kermit even believed Paul hit harder than him, or even some of the guys he faced before. Is it logical to think Kermit simply chose to end his night with something he actually could never predict the outcome of rather than do his thing against two gloved hands?

Him claiming he got the wind knocked out of him, and him touching the back of his head don't paint a contradictory picture. He fell and collided with whatever it was, definitely just the impact and sudden stop his whole body experienced must have disoriented him enough, and it was pretty normal to check up on the back of his head for anything, who ****in knows, with how absurd things were going at that point he could have had a massive hole on his head already. Exaggerating of course, but one gets the point.

Just doesn't make sense at all to be accusing Cintron so one-sidedly.

 

You should be a defense lawyer. That was hilarious.

 

But alas, there's the minor issue of the fact he told the doctor he couldn't continue twice.......

 

Was it? But the questions posed still aren't addressed. Is it logical to think Kermit would have chosen something he had no way of knowing how would end, or just do his thing against two gloved fists?

Kermit must be braver than some people presume then. He was allegedly willing to end his night via jumping out of the ring where he could possibly meet a fate worse than getting punched for the remainder of the bout. It was not like he was jumping into an inflatable pool of water or a safety net here. It was a ringside table, for crying out loud.

It is now a he said, he said thing. The ring doctor issued his statement, what was it, three days after the event? Gabe raised a valid issue, the good doctor was nowhere to be found, not a peep post-fight. Considering the controversial nature of the fight outcome, was it too much to ask an official ringside doctor to speak out and explain what all the ruckus was about right then and there before calling it a night?

 

The easy theory is that Kermit would rather risk injury than lose. He already had the payday and thought he was up on the cards and/or that the fight would be ruled a n/c.

That's more cowardly than simply getting your ass kicked.

 

Risk injury than lose? It just doesn't make sense to risk jumping and suffer an unknown than simply do your thing against two gloved fists, win or lose. He felt Paul's punches, he wasn't up against such a big puncher, if anything he was winning that we all agree on.

 

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, just sharing what seems like the majority of people think.

I'm not quite sure how to take the fight last week to be honest.

 

What I'm saying should be pretty clear. If a fighter has or had aspirations of fighting in Nevada, he might think twice before contradicting the head of the nsac. Maybe the guy is telling the truth. Why do you think no one has come out?

 

Looked highly suspicious to me...

 

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You are telling me that Cotto who has been very vocal about Margarito's wraps for his fight, and who has gone as far as to say Margarito should be banned for life, would'nt come out and defend his case by stating that he used his own gauze and tape for the Margarito fight???:huh

You'd have to have the mindset of a fool to come to the conclusion that fighters and trainers are going to keep their mouth shut and not shun the NSAC for fear of getting black balled.:-(



If Cotto spoke that the NSAC was less than truthful, what would be the commisions excuse to renage Cotto a license and an opportunity to fight in Vegas?
This I've got to hear!:nut


......and btw, Cotto has already been pretty clear that he thinks Margarito had his wraps loaded for their fight........is'nt that already disrespecting the Nevada Commision who say's they are certain (because they provide gauze and tape) that Margarito did not load for that fight.

If the NSAC had an agenda for fighters who spoke against them, Cotto would have already been in their doghouse.

 

Whatever you may believe about Cintron and how this fight ended. The real issue to me is that Paul Williams, who is for whatever reason supposed to be some unstoppable-p4p-high-volume-swarming-machine couldn't hit a ****ing thing and was nearly out on his feet when the fight got stopped. Personally, whatever you think about this fight Paul got his ass saved by this **** as he was on his way to being knocked the **** out. I think that whatever this fight and the MArtinez fight both proved is that Paul williams is not an elite fighter. And that despite his rediculous size advantage at 154 lbs if he doesn't have the even more rediculous size advantage that he enjoyed at WW he is nothing special and vulnerable to the top guys at 154 lb and above. I hate to bring this up (because I know this has been beaten to death months ago but its the first time I've had an opinion on the matter) but I truely believe that if he fought Kelly Pavlik he'd get dummied. And regardless of how you think he'd do in that fight you have to agree his boxing skills are complete ****.

 

You were ragging on Montoya, a professional journalist, for not divulging his sources on a website he doesn't even work for, and you were doing it because he was saying things you didn't want to hear. He says he has sources. Do you think he was lying?

A) I did say maybe the nsac guy is telling the truth. Personally, I have no reason to doubt what he is saying. I don't know the facts and neither do you. But I'm willing to wait to hear them.

B) You'll believe that the csac would lie, cheat and conspire against Margarito for no apparent reason, but its beyond the realm of possibility that the nsac would claim that they provided fighters with the equipment in question. Try and be a little consistent. Actually, I guess you are. Everyone is lying except, Margo's lawyer, his trainer, and of course Margo himself , the guy who got caught cheating. You did say something about mindsets, no?

And when I asked why you thought that nobody came out, it wasn't a rhetorical question. i was asking your opinion.

PS- It's a shame Montoya didn't answer the few questions I put out there.... and me defending him like this.