high intensity training...how good is it for boxing or for general

there was a traditional bodybuilding method, which is still fellowed by people in gyms and probably most in bodybuilding

and arnold was a huge guy pushing the method

1 or 2 body parts a day
you do a ton of sets
like example
chest
3-4 sets
flat bench
3-4 sets
incline
and sometimes the same for flys or incline
1-set light
2-heavier
3-heaviest
4-back lighter

now was pushed a lot by joe weider, who was a big force in arnold
winning so much.

now there was a totally different method
called high intensity pushed athur jones
and his most famous student mike menzer

here is a video that explains it
it takes alot less time, but you train to failure

i like that it takes much less time but
i dont like that they used machines so much, and the very little warming up could be dangerious for a non pro bodybuilder

and i dont how how well you could do a sport while training like that
where you had to spend a lot of time recovering

but it is very interesting
and i am wondering if anyone trained like that and in general
what do you guys think



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it doesnt directly relate to boxing BUT since most boxers these days do lift weights,
it is an interesting topic for discussion, because it is a totally different method then the norm.


the reason i posted this is because alot of people always talk about how lifting weights takes a lot of time away from their sport,
while this method takes very little time,
but as people have mentioned it, it has many drawbacks
thusly one the reasons why the "normal" method stayed around
and this one really hasnt

 

well this is not a running form,
but lots of people make treads about running exercises,

and just like some need help improving cardio
others need help putting on muscle-getting stronger

 

so your saying no athlete ever needs a routine for muscle building????

sometimes athlete or not, a person needs to put muscle for various reasons,

and a "bi-product"
boxing is not excatly a sport that makes you put on muscle

also in the title i said or for general?
and i did not remade this routine for boxing, wrestling or even bodybuilding
just posted it as a question mark,

i am actually not a fan at all of it to be honest
but 2 guys i used to grapple with
do it for powet purposes and because it doesnt take up much time.

i have had many arguments against them because i dont like this way of training
because it can lead to injuries and relies to much on machines, which are not as good as free weights for bodybuidling or sports training

 

ahh i agree with some of what you said,
but

'That's especially impo ratio.rtant in a sport like boxing where you want a high strength to weight'

while the reasoning is clear why you said this
the fact from what i have seen is that many boxers are actually not that
strong for their size if you compare them to other combat sportsman like wrestlers etc"

while they are very fast and explosive often, when it comes to pure
strength many boxers are lacking



"If an athlete needs to put on muscle then it has to be functional muscle specific to their sports demands"

again true but some guys have trouble putting on muscle
functional or not, so this is where bodybuilding comes in
because they are experts at putting on muscle


and like it or not most strength and conditioning coaches use quite a bit of
bodybuilding stuff in their training,

they'll just the term weight training exercises

why? because most knowlege about strength training
came from powerlifters,weightlifters and bodybuilders
all of whom influced each other