Higher ATG Ranking: Juan Manuel Marquez or Manny Pacquiao?

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  1. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao
    RESUME
    - Marco Antonio Barrera x2
    - Juan Manuel Marquez x2
    - Erik Morales x2
    - Oscar De La Hoya
    - Ricky Hatton
    - Miguel Cotto
    - Antonio Margarito
    - Shane Mosley
    - Timothy Bradley (controversial decision loss)
    - Brandon Rios
    - Timothy Bradley II
    - Chris Algieri


    * First & only 8 Division World Champion.
    * First to win the Lineal Championship in 4 different weight classes.
    * Fighter of the Decade (2000s).
    * 2-1-1 against Marquez OFFICIALLY.


    Juan Manuel Marquez
    RESUME
    - Manny Pacquiao
    - Joel Casamayor
    - Juan Diaz
    - Michael Katsidis
    - Marco Antonio Barrera
    - Rocky Juarez
    - Mike Alvarado

    * 7 World Titles in 4 different weight classes.
    * Knocked out Pacman in their 4th Fight (39 Years Old).
     
  2. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i didnt know catchweights were official divisions? pac man is a great fighter but every title he or any fighter won whilst fighting at catchweight should be null and voided,

    to the answer the question i think marquez, just! if for anything the way he ko'd pac man in his last fight
     
  3. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That was a great Knock out by Marquez but Resume wise, I have to go with Pac.
     
  4. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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  5. Kaz_187

    Kaz_187 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    agree pac mans resume is abit better, but those wins against jmm dnt show the true picture of the fights, also i think the longevity of jmm career adds a few points, i mean p4p number 2 or 3 at 40 is alomost unheard of
     
  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Agreed. And didnt he become a lightweight "champion" by beating David Diaz. How about how many weights did he actually unify, not cherrypick the weakest trinket holder?
     
  7. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he he he ... pac>>>>>>floyd in resume and you say marquez>>>>>pac? he he he
     
  8. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    Pacquiao.

    i'd like to see Marquez pass through these guys. well maybe Hatton.

    - Erik Morales x2
    - Oscar De La Hoya
    - Ricky Hatton
    - Miguel Cotto
    - Antonio Margarito
    - Shane Mosley

    add in Clottey
     
  9. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Antonio Margarito will be a very tough fight for Marquez.
     
  10. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Manny P has the better resume.

    Marquez always had Manny's number, though.

    Oh, and I love how you list Bradley and Marquez x2 on Manny's record, when Manny officially lost to Bradley.
    I thought Manny lost all the fights to Marquez.
     
  11. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is close, to vote now I would say Manny,however if JMM gets a clear win over Bradley and keeps going it could change.
    Also hard to say how Pac will end his Career,will he step back up and fight someone huge again or are the days of taking the best fights over for him.
     
  12. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pacquiao did too many good things early in his career and marquez bloomed too late.

    pacquiao for me
     
  13. sauroncuneta

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    I don't know why people keep on forgetting that Pac has 4 Lineal championships, even 3 lineals is really rare in boxing, how much mores so for 4 lineal championships?
     
  14. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He does?? That's hella impressive. Which divisions?
     
  15. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The 165 pound Margarito that Manny destroyed would have stopped Marquez in 7 .

    Marquez does not have the speed that Manny had to evade Margaritos relentless attack .


    Eventually somewhere in the fight Marquez will trade with Antonio , to show hes has just as much as heart as he do and thats were Marquez demise will begin .