Higher ATG: Wladimir Klitschko or Mike Tyson?

So.

What I put is fact. Your making excuses.

 

Listen sweetheart , it wouldn't be a bad idea if you read a little, you might be surprised in what you learn.

 

It was Golota who was beating the **** out of Grant. It was almost a first round loss for Grant. He was lucky the bell saved him.

Golota lost that fight himself when he quit for no good reason.

 

Im saying he wasnt focused at that point and had other issues, im not making excuses just reasons.

 

What does Wlad do better than Golota. Lets hear it. I advise you to run away because Golota had a far larger skill base than Wlad has.

 

You're simply speculating. You can't add fantasy losses on a guys career to make a case for them being better or worse ATGs - you can only look at who they have fought and how they have performed against those put in front of them.

Unless - wait a minute - you ain't got your hands on this time machine that seems to be doing the rounds on ESB? C'mon guys - play fair! When do I get a turn?:think

 

Then why was he never a world champion.

And why was he beaten by such fighters like Grant, Ruiz,Austin etc.

 

Golota was 40 years old when he lost to Austin and shot to ****. atsch

Golota was a good fighter though of course a head case. At his best he was very good indeed if a little bit chinny. He finished off Bowe, was good enough to draw with Byrd one of Wlad's top 3 wins and should have got the decision against Ruiz.

 

Because he fought in an extremely competitive era riddled with ATGs.

He beat Byrd when he was shot beyond belief before Wlad beat him to become champion.

 

But he lost to Michael Grant.

I'm not saying Golota was ****, he wasn't he was a very good but very beatable fighter.

Wlad would beat Golota imo quite easily.

It just amazes me how many people out there will try to change history to suit their anti Klitschko agenda b

 

He wasn't a champion or a title holder because he fought in a more competitive era than this one and was robbed against Ruiz. Golota is as good as Byrd, proven by their draw, better than Pulev and Thompson. Doesn't mean he couldn't lose to them though he was such a head case, nobody snatched victory from the jaws of defeat like Golota could.

 

Wlad beat Byrd in 2000, 4 years before Golota drew with him.

Please tell me all these ATG's he met?

 

I dont think there is an anti Klitschko agenda, its just that when people put them up as all time greats then they will get challenged.

For what it is Golota is way way more talented than both brothers , but he was a mental midget and loses to both quite easily.

 

You might be right because W's resume is **** poor:good:good