Higher ATG: Wladimir Klitschko or Mike Tyson?

Dude Holmes even at that point is Bette than ever single fighter that Wlad has fought don't compare them buns to Holmes heavyweight boxing is bad tyson has fought a list of better fighters than Wlad spinks is better win than anyone Wlad had beat

 

Holmes went to be a pretty good fighter in ray Mercer who was unbeaten at time mercer went To give lewis a tough fight which was a toss up fight that could have gone either way. Lennox a fighters who Wlad couldn't tie his shoes larry also when on to fight Oliver McCall almost beat plus Larry even off the lay off vs tyson could still be seen as the champ he was robbed in the second spinks fight 42 writers gave him the fight holmes was robbed. Wlad has fought no fighters with Holmes resume or even of his caliber

 

Wald. It's not about who'd win in their primes but who has done more and has been more consistent at the highest levels of the sport. There is no debate......Wald dominates Tyson statistically in terms of what both have accomplished as pro fighters.

 

As far as longetivity is concerned that wlad is better than Lewis

 

Lennox Lewis has even said the the klitschko era has devalued boxing compared to the era of holyfield, him and Tyson so poor has the quality of opposition the klitschkos have faced. I don't hear any of the 70-90's fighters speak in awe of them

 

These two jokers were no where near Tysons training camp from 85-88 so they how could they possibly know who hit harder than whom?

 

Agreed.

 

That was a sarcastic comment by me. I was just disputing the logic of basing longetivity of title defences, you have to take era of boxing and competition to. I still feel LL was the better fighter and made better use of his skills compared to the klits

 

Mercer knocked out prime undefeated Tommy Morrison. The Duke then went on to beat Foreman who had been blitzing guys and had only lost to the great Holyfied.
Morrison also knocked out Ruddock which was one of the greatest KOs off all time.

Holmes gave prime , Mercer a schooling and took his zero. Lewis would have a very hard time with Mercer years later and some felt he lost.
If Mercer could push Lewis like that , it only stands to reason that prime Mike would have knocked him out.

Nobody ever did to Holmes what Tyson did to him. Holmes is proven beyond the point of that loss.
Homes is an ATG win.

What ATG win or hall of fame win does Wlad have?

 

he was throwing when he went down. He actually didn't not perform bad at all up to that point.

Was he scared, or simply giving tysons power its due respect? You'd have to be stupid not to give his power some paramount cause for concern.

ad to be fair, wlads punches and tysons are very different things.

 

I think Wlad ranks higher for longevity and consistency, but head to head Tyson would brutalize him in his prime.

 

Tysons are far more efficient at transmitting force.

wlad can land hard a can be seen from this weekend, and potentially his body weight means he can land harder than Tyson but he lacks the ability to do so often in a match