Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

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Higher ring IQ

Poll closed Dec 21, 2023.
  1. Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  2. Terence Crawford

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who's ring IQ is higher
     
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  2. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd was the master. Always seemed in control even when he wasnt. He had an ethereal ability to control the distance and take away opponents strengths. However, he probably shouldve lost JLC1 (or at least draw) and probably shouldve had draws in Maidana 1 and arguably DLH. At least DLH is a HOF/ATG but the other two arent...so that effects perception of mastery (for me at least).

    Crawford has never had a close fight in his entire career so its hard to pick other contemporary fighters over him on any factor really. Before people whine about his resume, Crawford remains (for now) the only male boxer to be undisputed in 2 different weight classes with wins over Spence, Porter, Mean Machine, Postol, Gamboa, and Burns. He's boxed well, countered well, disarmed opponents, never looks out of place, and rarely loses rounds...tough to not recognize that level of mastery.
     
  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    We'd would have to watch them fight to answer that
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Both cowards who never fought a threat in their lives.
     
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    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    100% Floyd
    Come on guys I know you all think Floyd is a coward etc, but his defense and ring generalship can not be questioned

    He is close to goat status in those 2 areas
     
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    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Hard to go against Crawford when as you say he has never had a close/controversial fight.

    Crawford has definitely had a few issues in fights but he has always made the adjustments to win comfortably

    The fact that Crawford is probably the greatest switch hitter of all time or at least the modern era is also in his favour, thats absolute ring mastery for me.

    I still might not pick him to beat Floyd but I do think he has the higher ring IQ
     
  7. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I think it is an underrated aspect of both their games. That being said, Mayweather used intelligence and guile to remain undefeated for six years after his hands started going bad. I have to give the edge to Floyd.
     
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    Crawford looks good against todays competition, but try pulling off that skill against other
    I see what your saying but I disagree. Crawford has high ring IQ based on relatively mediocre competition and a few HOFs like Spence and Porter.

    Floyd has a high ring IQ against proven champions and others who have solid credentials behind them, such as 2013 Canelo, who are atleast as good as Spence and Porter.
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Crawford in terms of regular IQ. Floyd might be business/money smart/savvy but he's as dumb as a box of frogs and he can't even read Pip At The Zoo. He's smarter than most of his fans though - I mean half of them act like his cheques go directly into their bank accounts the way they boast about his personal wealth :facepalm:

    But in terms of ring IQ. Well, Floyd demonstrated his ring intelligence against a much higher caliber of opposition and was often the smaller/much smaller man and even though it was an extremely rare occurrence for him to be at a reach disadvantage or even matched for reach, Crawford has often been the bigger/much bigger man and rarely the smaller one, let alone a lot smaller and he has literally never fought anyone with a reach as long as his in any of his world title fights and like Floyd often had a big reach advantage or a significant one.
     
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    Crawford beats Floyd for me, but Crawford also bigger than Floyd. PFP I edge Floyd but H2H I edge Crawford
     
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    Edge to Floyd. But rock, paper, scissors, Bud would do well against Floyd.

    Floyd was tentative against Pac, covering up and with apparent a bit jelly legs, then Zab was faster and winning the first 5-6 rounds against him. Then Cotto too, bloodying his nose.

    There's something odd with those bouts for Floyd and with already enough data to study for Team Bud to capitalize on. Imagine it was Bud with the physical strength, height, reach, power, and of course IQ.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd in the ring

    Terence in real life
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Fury?

    The guy who fought Wlad, Wilder & Usyk? three very different styles. Three basically undefeated reigning supreme and sexy champions? and beat them all with ease?

    If Fury was Floyd or Crawford he wouldn't have fought Wilder or Usyk. Probably fought Dubious, Ruiz Jr, 50 year old Povetkin and some other chumps
     
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    Wilder's right hand of death is literally the devil incarnate. Only a godly creature can defeat him.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Castillo is definitely a low tier HOF and Castillo would be Crawford's 2nd best win on his resume, i don't think saying "Crawford has never had controversial decision so that means hes better" is a very good argument due to the fact Mayweather has a way stronger list of opposition.

    Corrales
    ODLH 154
    Canelo
    Pacquiao
    Cotto
    Marquez
    Castillo
    Judah
    Hatton