Higher ring IQ Crawford or Mayweather

LOL, now wilder is a thing?
When you say wlad you mean 40 yo Wlad, right?
Has he fought Ussyk yet? I didnt know that.

Yes, fury. The guy who fought chisora thrice because he didnt know what to do to continue dodging. The same guy who looked like a complete idiot in front of a guy with 0 fights who lept when he moved back because he had no freaking idea about how to box. Yes, this Fury.

 

Wilder's right hand of death is literally the devil incarnate. Only a godly creature can defeat him.

 

Castillo is definitely a low tier HOF and Castillo would be Crawford's 2nd best win on his resume, i don't think saying "Crawford has never had controversial decision so that means hes better" is a very good argument due to the fact Mayweather has a way stronger list of opposition.

Corrales
ODLH 154
Canelo
Pacquiao
Cotto
Marquez
Castillo
Judah
Hatton

 

Castillo has better case for HOF than Corrales imo. He might sneak in a Top 30 lightweights list. That's good enough.

 

Floyd makes adjustments on the fly while Crawford makes adjustments each round so I have to say Floyd. Also, Floyd used his IQ to beat other high IQ fighters like Marquez, Corrales, Judah, Augustus, Cotto, Canelo, and Manny. Crawford is basically a victim of circumstance.

• Porter was contemplating retirememnt.
• Benavidez, Kava, and Horn were nothing special.
• Brook and Khan were past it.
• Spence was weight-drained, high, or something else was going on. Everyone knows that something was wrong with Spence that night but I digress.

Crawford has yet to defeat a game, prime, version of any fighter. Crawford is more so in the class of Meldrick Taylor and Buddy McGrit. People are trying to put him in the class of Floyd, Duran, Leaonard, Hearns, Manny, Oscar, Mosley....etc but there is no victory that proves that.

 

Disagree. Floyd's resume is extremely underrated.

 

Based on what? I could an arguement that the Mosley, Oscar, Castillo, Canelo, and Manny that Floyd fought beats Crawford. He has done nothing to be considered that level. Hell, i'm not sure he beats Virgil or Ennis.

 

That's because P4P Floyd is Top 5 when it comes to being "perfect" Floyd can fight at all ranges, has elite athleticism, fundamentals, and defense. Let's look at this objectively, there are a few young fighters who may end up surpassing Crawford(Shakur, Ennis, Cruz, Haney, and Keyshawn) but there is no one as close as Floyd when you talk about Skill and IQ. Floyd is in the class of Leonard, Duran, Armstrong, and Hagler while Crawford is more Simon Brown, Meldrick Taylor, Buddy Mcgrit, Vernon Forest....etc

 

JLC hasnt fought since 2010 and isnt in the HOF so why are you calling him a "low tier HOF"? He's not HOF at all.

Corrales was a good win and he's joining HOF next year...he's a Gatti level HOFer though...

You listed JMM as a good win for Floyd...shows what a casual you are. Floyd pulled JMM up from 135 to 147 after Floyd couldnt make agreed upon CW of 144...and THATS a good win? It was a pointless, unimpressive, and highly expected win. It was akin to Crawford beating Amir Khan, honestly.

Your standards for resume and opposition are baseless

 

Crawford beat/stopped undefeated versions of Spence, Gamboa, Postol, Indongo, and Mean Machine.

Crawford did not need judges to bail him out of draws against Maidana1 or DLH nor did Crawford need judges to rob an opponent like Floyd did in JLC1. Crawford did not wait out Pacman...no, Crawford sought out Spence in 2018 and was ignored until 2023 where Bud showed how much better he is than the PBC WW crew.

Its cute that you believe Manny would beat Bud but youre just a fan like me. The people who actually have a say, like Freddie Roach, intentionally avoided Bud, just like the PBC bunch. That alone says a lot about what fighters and trainers thought of Crawford. Its just dumbasses like yourself keep pissing in the wind and getting upset when you get wet.

 

You just hate PBC just say it again name one fighter that he defeated that's better than those versions of fighters that Floyd fought I'll wait

 

Spence. He beats everyone you mentioned save for DLH and Pacman. But I have DLH and Floyd in a draw...so Floyd didnt even win that fight which is why he retired afterward to postpone the DLH rematch until the contract expired.

Porter also beats most of the guys you mentioned. Bud stopped Porter, only person to do that

 

Because resume wise Castillo is worthy of being in HOF and mostly likely will be in future.....

I'm mentioning the most recognised names Mayweather fought to give you an example of how Crawford's resume pales in comparison.

Me a casual ? didn't you recently make yourself look like a total casual in recent thread calling Mike McCallum a basic fighter and I'm the casual one ? Ok buddy.

As for baseless comments ? You want look at yourself in mirror "Crawford has never had a competitive fight" without any context what so ever about how his opposition isn't even remotely close to Mayweathers.

That's a baseless comment.

 

Definitely Money

 

Do you really think Porter is a future HOFer?