Highest and Lowest ring IQ's

Wlad often let fights drag on when he could have finished them: this conservatism played a role in his 22 win streak and his longevity but it ultimately cost him against AJ. Look at the Eddie Chambers fight: Chambers was much smaller and less powerful than AJ but Wlad let him off the hook for round after round until the final few seconds. I watched his first fight against Byrd the other day and although Wlad did a far better job than Vitali with his superior speed, accuracy and power, he was very cautious and allowed Byrd to go the distance. Wlad was too cautious when he was young, when in his prime and in the case of the AJ fight, extremely naïve to ever think he would get a fair decision in Britain. A 6th round KO over an active, 18-0, 27.5 year old top amateur and world champion AJ at 41, away and inactive on the comeback would have hugely cemented Wlad's legacy. It was a Conn-Louis level blunder, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

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His caution was rooted in Sanders and his gas tank blowing twice against inferior fighters. Ring IQ wise, young Wlad a C and Steward version an A (caveat'd with his poor display vs Fury but a 22 win streak overrides that)

 

Amir Khan did not have good ring IQ IMO

 

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Just want to see your cards and/or scoring?

Simple request to back up the draw conclusion from a pugilist specialist such as you. Shouldn't be hard.

 

It’s in there somewhere if you explore the search function.

 

He was cautious against the small, light punching Byrd in 2000 but Steward made him even more defensive post-Sanders. The Brewster collapse was drug-related. Wlad's miscalculation against Fury was more understandable than his miscalculation against AJ: at least against Fury he knew the home judges would favour his work. He also had AJ badly hurt, legs gone, reflexes gone, gas tank gone and ready to go, Fury was never remotely close to that, so why he didn't jump on AJ is less forgivable there as well. Puritty was a miscalculation as he was a 250 lbs, athletically-built, highly experienced teak-tough journeyman with a hard punch so Wlad shouldn't have pushed aggressively for the KO, Wlad was also not physically mature at this point as a sub-22 year old at 225 lbs and was fighting more than once per month up to that point at 24-0, which could have contributed to his fatigue.

 

You can't blame his caution on Byrd in 00 as he'd beaten Purrity and Vitali couldn't land clean and came to grief. Wlad altered his style and got the win which is part why I give him a C for ring IQ and not a D early on. Sanders he mistakenly thought was past it. Maybe if he'd been more on his toes and less square that loss wouldn't have happened but he didn't have the ring IQ or seasoning to cope. You can argue chin also but the chin was no worse than most and he shipped some huge bombs and a headbutt from Sanders. My problem vs Fury was he never made the adjustments until maybe the last round or two. He needed to get in the trenches and make it a war mid rounds but wouldn't, albeit he was 40 and without Steward's counsel. Yes he had Joshua just about finished but let him recover, don't blame him entirely but should have gone all out, still an A for IQ for winning 22-0. Many of them superior to Ruiz Jr who Joshua came a cropper against. Prime WK would never have lost to him.

 

Really not interested in trawling through your posts. If you can't remember just say so

 

Khan`s ring IQ was awful, always making mistakes and getting caught flush.

 

You kind of set that up for them. No fighter with an "A++" boxing IQ would have two losses to inferior fighters.

 

here we go again... Stop using context outside of the fight, actually apply context which was present in the fight.

 

I think you have a point in regards to Loma but with Ward, what I will say is. Pretty easy to get an A+ when you are the teachers pet.

 

Outside the ring you could see he isn't the brightest. Anyone who saw him on 'I'm a Celebrity' would attest to that. Thick as a plank, basically.

 

Then Ali too should had been marked as low level boxing IQ. Loma at least never had been dropped by lad who weights 20 lbs lower than he while Ali was. Actually with this criteria Ali never should be nor in HOF nor considered as ATG, God Help You.
More than this: with this criteria you use vs Loma, Ali then: he was average boxer just with iron chin in 70 ies nothing more.