Highest Level of Opposition Per Decade?

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  1. George Crowcroft

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    Which fighters had the higher levels of opposition per decade?
     
  2. William Walker

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    This isn't specific at all George. What divisions? Are you talking about champions?
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    All divisions, all fighters, everything. Who fought the best fighters in each decade?
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    1900s: Sam Langford (?)
    1910s: Soldier Bartfield
    1920s: Harry Greb
    1930s: Tony Canzoneri
    1940s: Archie Moore
    1950s: Kid Gavilan
    1960s: Emile Griffith
    1970s: Muhammad Ali
    1980s: Roberto Duran
    1990s: Evander Holyfield
    2000s: Oscar De La Hoya
    2010s: Manny Pacquiao

    I so wanted to give the 30s to Risko, but he was too inactive.
     
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  5. William Walker

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    I think your list is practically perfect. The only one that I would change is the 30s. I might say Joe Louis.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    Louis? Really? The only people I considered over Canzoneri were John Henry Lewis, Maxie Rosenbloom and Johnny Risko. Louis had a good level of opposition, but I don't it quite matches somebody who fought Barney Ross, Jimmy McLarnin, Lou Ambers, Kid Chocolate and many more.

    Although I think I should say, you could swap out Bartfield for lots of guys. Everyone fought so often and everybody at the top that there's plenty of densely packed, great records.
     
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    At first the only one I would have changed would have been Carlos Ortiz for the 60s. But looking at Griffith, it's hard to form an argument there. I was also very impressed at Luis Rodriguez' competition across 2 divisions.
     
  8. William Walker

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    Yeah. When one thinks about it, really, Griffith was probably the most dominant fighter on this list within his own decade.
     
  9. George Crowcroft

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    I'm that confident that Griffith should win it in the sixties. I'd have given it him just based on his wins before 1965, them after that he fought Tiger, Archer Benvenuti, Hayward and Harris, most multiple times. Then he also fought a peak Napoles in '69. I don't think it's even close.
     
  10. William Walker

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    It's not. One looks at the resumes of Tiger, Ortiz, and Ali in the 60s, which are all pretty damn good. Then you look at Griffith. It makes the previous three look inactive. It's pretty amazing considering about 8 years of that was a mentally dead fighter in the ring.
     
  11. greynotsoold

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    From 1936 or 7 until 1947, Izzy Janazzo would have to be in the hunt. He fought a lot of very good fighters.
     
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  12. BitPlayerVesti

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    How about someone that fought:
    Dave Holly
    Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
    Kid Carter
    Peter Maher
    Joe Walcott
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Joe Gans
    Hugo Kelly
    Matty Mathews
    Dixie Kid
    Jack Blackburn
    Jack Johnson
    Joe Thomas (who fought Ketchell)
    All in the 1900's?
    Edit: plus Owen Ziegler, George Cole and Al Kaufman

    I ofcourse mean Joe Grim :jump1:
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

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    I did actually consider Grim, but didn't know he fought such a stacked roster in the 1900s.
     
  14. Kamikaze

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    Emile was easily one of the best in and outside the ring, his downfall was having an artists soul and a talent for violence, not a wonder he would always be found in the crosshairs of tragedy.
     
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    For the 1900s
    George Gardner:
    Joe Walcott
    Jack Johnson
    Jack Root
    Marvin Hart
    Bob Fitzsimmons

    Owen Moran:
    Harry Ware
    George Dixon
    Digger Stanley
    Monte Attell
    Abe Attell
    Harlem Tommy Murphy

    George Dixon:
    Terry McGovern
    Tim Callahan
    Benny Yanger
    Young Corbett II
    Abe Attell
    Pedler Palmer
    Jim Driscoll
    Digger Stanley
    Owen Moran
    Harlem Tommy Murphy

    Shot George Dixon might have it, no wonder he piled up the losses.
     
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