Highest p4p: Monzon, Hagler, McCallum or Hearns?

The thread about Monzon and McCallum got me thinking about this. What say you?

Feel free to tank them in order.

 

I think I'd have to have McCallum ahead of Hagler and Monzon. His work at JMW alone is not that far from theirs at MW, and he also has stellar wins at MW and a couple of good ones way past his prime at LHW. For me it's probably between him and Hearns. Didn't Monzon have more defenses than Hagler at MW, also, and retired as undefeated champion? Hagler is probably last for me.

 

I just don't see it, with his great work at both JMW and MW plus a title a LHW... How is he "definite fourth"?

 

Hearns has the biggest names on his record, I'd say: Benitez, Duran, Leonard (he won the second imo) and Hill as the main ones. Benitez and Hill was prime.

Monzon is close, though, with Napoles and Griffith. And McCallum has Curry, Kalambay and Toney (he won the second imo). Hagler of course had Hearns and Duran, but after that there's a drop.

Hearns has the worst losses. Monzon and McCallum probably the least hurtful ones... Don't know where I'm going here exactly. Rambling mostly.

 

When MccCallum lost to Kalambay (and "embarrassed" I feel is a bit strong word) he was about the age Hagler was when he lost to Leonard. Kalambay was a great MW and Leonard a great WW who had been inactive for the better part of five years.

Hearns won titles in divisions 30 lbs and two classical divisions apart. Something not many have done. Thats' not bad weight jumping however you twist it.

 

Let's put it this way: Kalambay and Mike were both in their prime, and Hagler and Leonard were both about a similar distance from theirs. But Leonard had never fought at MW before and only once above 147. Conversely, McCallum had very little expereince at 160 when he faced Kalambay.

Of course, on the other hand Hagler-Leonard was a lot closer and could have gone the other way without it being a scandal in any sense. So I guess there's not much between these two losses, really.

 

In McCallum's case, there's the question how dominating the JMW should be rated. It is a "mongrel" division, but still consists of as a large weight range as the MW division. So the question is really just how much talent there was at that particular weight range at that time, and I think it was quite good during Mike's time there.

As for Hearns, he's a hard one to rank. The only division he could be said to be the best one is JMW (and that's arguable), but he did good work in several of course.

It seems most here have Monzon ahead of Hagler? It seems reasonable. The quality they faced as champs was probably quite similar, but Monzon retired as undefeated champ with more defences.