History of professional boxing if Soviet countries could fight pro?

No not on a computer though looks impossible to read

 

Ill wait until you're on a computer so.

Its quite easy to read.

And essentially says all the things I said.

Army athletes didnt even know their commanders names. They just used to get their haircut to look like soldiers.

Union athletes never worked in factories.

Student athletes rarely went to school.

Many washed out and simply became alcoholics.

Athletes trained full time and received a relatively good lifestyle from the government

 

They only got under way in the 70s?

Cuba’s been participating in the Olympics since 1900, boxing has been in the Olympics since 1904, and Cuba didn’t win any medals in Olympic boxing until the 1970s.

Why?

Because when some young man in Cuba was good at boxing – like Kid Gavilan, Benny Paret and Nino Valdes – they turned pro. And when Castro assumed power and banned pro boxing, those guys had nowhere to go but the amateur ranks. After a decade or so of refusing to let guys turn pro, they had a powerhouse on their hands. And they have ever since.

When Cuba lifts the ban on professional boxing … that will be the last time Cuba wins any medals at the Olympics ... because all those poor, talented boxers aren’t going to fight for free just like they didn’t fight for free before the ban.

And the World Series of Boxing doesn’t pay like top boxing promoters in Germany and U.S. do.

If Cuban boxers can live in Cuba and turn pro, they’re all going pro. And they won’t have those top fighters who compete in 10 amateur World Championships and three Olympic games.

That’s probably why the Cuban government hasn’t let it happen. Olympic boxing is the only sport they collect piles of medals in.

 

Really? If Demetrius Andrade was "THE BEST" guy on the team (as the announcer said), that team was terrible. Six years later, Demetrius Andrade STILL ISN'T the best junior middleweight in the U.S.

And how bad was the team the U.S. sent if Deontay Wilder, who had a dozen or so amateur fights, was representing the country?

If we're talking about the U.S. during the Soviet era, the U.S. dominated in Olympic gold medals 22-13 against the Soviet in head-to-head meetings until the U.S.S.R. collapsed.

If you add up all the medals the U.S. accumulated from the 1920s on (when the Soviet Union began) ... they dominated the U.S.S.R. and Cuba.

Ironically, the U.S. and its athletes also began losing interest in amateur boxing with the rule changes in 1992 on onward. We've listened to Teddy Atlas scream at ringside from every Olympic venue for 20 years about how terrible it all is and people shouldn't watch anymore (I don't know why they let him continue to do it), and frankly people don't.

In the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s, Olympic boxing was on prime time national television in the U.S. In 1996, they barely showed any Olympic boxing at all on national television. In 2000, they stopped showing Olympic boxing entirely on national television.

You have to watch it on some obscure Financial channels ... and Teddy Atlas is still on there telling you how much it all sucks. The fighters and the broadcasts are unwatchable.

I don't know what happened to U.S. boxing after 1992. It was great for 70 years before that. Now. it isn't.

We've never sent the best boxers in our country, because our best were competing in the pros, but the boxers we're sending now are worse than ever in U.S. history.

If you want to gloat about that fine. Everyone agrees the U.S. amateur boxing is terrible. People IN U.S. amateur boxing ADMIT it's terrible and something needs to happen.

But if we're talking about the Soviet era, the U.S. was dominant during the Soviet era, even with fighters who weren't the very best at their weight.

Recap: from 1920s to 1980s (the Soviet era) = U.S. Olympic boxers did great/from 1992 to now (post-Soviet era) = U.S. Olympic boxers not good at all.

BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE if every participating country sent THEIR BEST FIGHTERS to the Olympics and the World Championships? How many medals would CUBA have? Who is their best pro?

The U.S. would definitely win at least THREE GOLDS - with Andre Ward, Floyd Mayweather and Danny Garcia. Cuba would win ZERO. Who is the best Russian pro? Povektin? He'd lose again to Wlad Klitschko. Russia would probably win ZERO too.

And, on that note, I think I've talked this to death. I'm bowing out.:good

 

Geezus Christ, dude, let him off the mat before you drop another haymaker on him. :rofl

 

Game, set, MATCH.

 

Aquamarine
Excellent responses. You have more patience (or time) than I do to answer the nostalgia "US is best" clowns on esb. Sometimes I give rational responses but to irrational ppl it's a waste of time.

Other times, I just counter troll, it's easier :yep

 

STB is literally ******ed, he claims to be irish but will back an american to be the best no matter how **** they are

example: Thomas Williams Jr, he said this guy was the best prospect in the light heavyweight division, people told him no beterbiev, gvodyzk and mekhontsev are way better, STB continued to talk his bias american nonsense

he backs Williams Jr to out slick Campillo, as you know Campillo is only spanish no match for an american, Campillo procedes to give poor auld Tommy the beating of his life and his career is probebly over and now STB wont even mention why he rated Williams Jr so highly when most non bias fans knew he was ****

 

Yeah, there are many twits :nut like him here. At times I give esb a rest b/c at some point even rattling their cage isn't much fun

You've nearly doubled your vcash. Was it done slowly w/many bets or w/ a few big good calls? I haven't been making any bets, but think about it.

 

Almost got 4 times what I started with mate, Iv no idea back ggg, back kovalev, backed the guy who beat Gavin and a few more

Might as well make beat for the Craic, every time I point out to guys that Iv 10 times there vcash and only been here 3 months they get pretty unset lmfao

STB loves making a fool of himself though it's pretty funny

 

Even now, Gaydar (who beat GGG in the Olympics) would pound Andre Ward and Selimov would beat many guys between 130-135 .

 

Selimov would make a serious pro, think his signed up to apb boxing

 

Whatever you say chief.

Until they go pro and throw their lot in with the big boys, we'll never know.