"Hit him in the slats, Shinsuke!"

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Have any of you seen a KO quite like the one Shisuke Yamanaka perpetrated against Stephane Jamoye?

    It's a straight down the pipe, to the middle of the gut. I remember it at the time because I watched it live but didn't watch the replay and then got into an argument in General - I was sure that the punch had landed on the weak part of the chest, Fitz style, but this punch was right to the pit of the gut.

    More, the referee waved it off immediately, didn't even take a minute to look like they do with a liver shot or a sternum shot - I can only imagine that Jamoye made some awful, awful sound that inspired him accordingly. Any other straight body-shot stoppages that are comparable come to mind? Zero complaints from Jamoye, absolutely none, he's shaking the ref's hand, posing for photographs, all that.

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    Around 45.00 for the slow mo replay.
     
  2. mcvey

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    Impressive! BTW On another boxing site [I have my alternative ready in case, ] I read Jim Jeffries said Fitz told him the punch that ko'd Corbett wasn't to the solar plexus ,but a shot to the floating rib area.I got dropped by a shot to the gut it took my legs away,weird feeling.
     
  3. WAR01

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    As a larger welterweight i was sparring a close gym buddy whom was a CW... not sure if he was heavier or not on the day anyways he made me nearly **** myself with a punch to the solar plexus.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    That's a great example, and you can't beat that little salute :lol:

    Charley Burley seemed to use that punch a lot but I don't think he scored knockouts with it. I mean you see it a bit, but it's such a rare KO punch.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    I think this will be the pattern for these punches, it'll be guys who are vastly superior to their opponents physically in terms of speed who score these knockouts, because the trailing punch to the body is the one that is going to open up many more of the devastating countering opportunities that result in scored knockouts. It's not a good punch to throw habitually I don't think which is maybe why so few people bother with them.

    That said, Antonio Esparragoza loved this punch and he wasn't particularly fast.
     
  6. mcvey

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    I think jabs to the midriff are usually used to bring down the opponents guard and lower his defensive focus,thereby creating a target upstairs.
    Some fighters seem to concentrate on punches to the head.Good body punchers are often referred to as such ,because there seems to be a scarcity of them perhaps?
     
  7. McGrain

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    I see what you are getting at, but that is indisputably untrue as far as a systemic punch is concerned. It's 101 really, the further the punch has to travel (and travel back) the wider the countering opportunity. You could take some additional action to cover the punch but that, too, by its definition, becomes more dangerous overall as it's a more complex action.

    Very specifically the reason the reason the jab is the lead punch for almost all fighters is that it's safer to land than any other punch.
     
  8. McGrain

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    It is for sure.
     
  9. Devon

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    Referee stopped it because he’d been down like 3 times and it was clear he could not recover whilst he had an opponent trying to finish him
     
  10. McGrain

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    And because he'd been punched and knocked down.
     
  11. Devon

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    Yes, for the third or fourth time
     
  12. mcvey

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    Oh yes in some cases you are right! Im just making a generalisation really.
     
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