Holmes: Foreman a "fraud"

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  1. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    That context makes all the difference in the world, bud. Thanks for sharing that
     
  2. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    God dammit Holmes.

    He's so weird. Like, the only problem with him is his mouth. He stayed clean his entire career, stayed focused, stayed out of trouble, stayed away from drama (drop kick to Berbick aside), but every time he opens his mouth is like, come on man. And he was ALWAYS like this. Was probably walking around saying salty **** as a 10 year old.
     
  3. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I always thought Holmes had it tough being sandwiched between the 2 biggest names in boxing history (Ali tyson) and it's left him bitter. However, I think he is just a bitter, jealous individual

    Class act in the ring, but the complete opposite out of it. Always rated him as a fighter and rate him very high, but he's a very distasteful guy. He obviously resents others being more loved

    In a weird way I see similar traits with Novak Djokovic. He's obviously much more respectful than Holmes and has mellowed over the years, but despite being the GOAT with numbers to back his claim, he will never have the same adoration as Nadal and Federer. However, he has accepted and the crowds seem to have warmed to him over the years

    I Just don't understand the resentment from Holmes. Boxing fans and analysts from around the globe rate his achievements very high. He will be in anyone's top 10 heavyweights and In manys top 5
     
  4. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    He claimed Tyson (who beat him like he owed him money) wouldn't have cut it in the 70s era.

    A true player hater.
     
  5. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well at least we can enjoy Tyson demolishing that pos.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    God damn, Larry - you wait until six weeks after the man passes to get this off your chest? :shakehead:
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    A slight plurality of posters feel Foreman has a better top-ten wins:

    foreman-vs-holmes-top-ten-wins.729704

    For my part, Larry is the fraud. He never unified, declined to fight his #1 contenders, bragged about taking easy fights, beat on a decrepit Ali, insulted a true legend in Marciano, lost to a LHW, and contributed to the current alphabet mess by taking a belt from the gutter. It utterly SHOCKS me that people consider this guy as anything other than a minor great along the lines of a Floyd Patterson, or something.
     
  8. Camps

    Camps Active Member Full Member

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    True that: Just ask (the late) Greg Page. He ducked Page for years, with an assist from that still-living POS Don King....
     
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  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I don't know if this the exact quote I remember but I believe it's this video.

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    This whole vid is Larry hating.
    Listen to this gem:
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  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I want to give Holmes the benefit of the doubt because a lot of writers want to generate unnecessary controversy.

    That being said, Larry has never been complimentary towards any champ that came after him. He also once bragged about being the only man to stop Ali. :lol:

    Its little wonder why Larry hasn't been embraced by champions that came after him. You see Usyk and Holyfield acting chummy but the young champions don't seem to revere Holmes the same way. Respect his skill? Sure. But they do not revere him.
     
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  11. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Larry never had a great filter when it comes to comments about other fighters. Probably never more so than now, at 75 and with 75 fights worth of getting hit in the head on top of that. It could just amount to a case of sensationalist journalism too though.
     
  12. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    More gems from that video:
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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now he turnin on his bruvvas too?
     
  14. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Holmes is a scumbag, always has been. Great jab but an absolute moron of a human being. Foreman is not here man, gone and you talk about a man and he cant even defend himself. To be honest its sick behaviour.
     
  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The video is in the article too. People are quick to have opinions and can't even read the whole thing.