Holmes or Foreman - Who's Comeback...

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I thought the way Holmes beat Mercer was more impressive than Foreman getting the **** kicked out of him for 9 rounds until he took advantage of Moorer's glass chin.

    Then again, Foreman's job has always been to knock the other guy out while Holmes needs to outbox his opponent.


    You gotta give the edge to Foreman because he beat the linear champ and although he had a string of dodgy fights/decisions against lesser opposition, his opposition was somewhat better than Holmes'.

    The interesting thing is that i don't think Foreman would've getten past Mercer, but i also think Holmes would've been beaten by Moorer.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Holmes vs. Moorer would of been damned interesting, I think.
     
  3. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman fought better fighters and with better results.

    Holmes' win over Mercer is a great one, but the fact that Moorer held the lineal heavyweight title (and got knocked the **** out) makes both men's top victories roughly equal in my eyes.

    The difference is that Foreman's second-tier wins are alot better.
     
  4. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What's kind of interesting is that Holmes beat Ferguson right before facing McCall, who took care of Mercer, and during the rematch between Ferguson and Mercer the entire 100,000 dollar bribe deal took place.

    Hmm.
     
  5. Bill1234

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    They signed to fight in 1998, but were going to fight in 1999. It was dubbed "The Birthday Bash", but the promoter didn't get the money fast enough, but both Holmes and Foreman got around $500,000-$1,000,000, but didn't even fight. Obviously both were elated, but Holmes was disapointed because he knew he would never be able to fight Foreman again, and he'd been asking for a fight since somewhere around 1976-1977.
     
  6. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel pretty much the same way, I feel Foreman's win over Moorer is exagerated a bit. People make it seem like Foreman was beating the **** out of Moorer, when really (and obviously) Moorer was kicking the crap out of Foreman before he got caught with a decent shot square. I give Atlas a lot of credit for doing his part in telling Michael to watch out for exactly what happend, Michael was just too thick headed.

    But anyway, I feel that Holmes was the better of the two in both careers. Obviously Holmes's comeback doesn't stack up to Foreman's because he didn't win the title. The way I look at it, if almosts counted, Holmes would have had the better comeback. He almost beat McCall, but lost by 1 point on 2 scorecards. Holmes almost (and probably should have) got the nod of Nielson. I think Holmes did better against Holyfield, even slipping a punch and making Evander look a little silly falling down. Foreman pursued Holyfield doggedly and rocked Holyfield, but I only gave him about 2 rounds being generous where as Holmes I feel squeezed out about 4 rounds.

    Foreman looked dominant over a bunch of tomato cans, and got some questionable decisions over a few of the people. I think Foreman's comeback and his comeback record are in general overrated a bit.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I honestly can't and don't blame Moorer for fighting Foreman the way he did.

    That guy killed himself for years eating 800 calories a ****ing day to stay at LH, every bit of credit he got for beating Holyfield quickly vanished for a number of reasons, and so on.

    I'd feel like I had something to prove too.
     
  8. RoccoMarciano

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    About the only thing Moorer proved vs Foreman is that he has a glass jaw. :lol:
     
  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Holmes wasn't the only one. Although the boxing press unmercifully hammered this fight, and some writers actually celebrated when it was cancelled, there were some fans, like myself, who really wanted to see this fight. Sure, they were both old and past their primes, but it would have still be competitive and interesting to see these two legends squaring off, even if they were both nearly 50!
     
  10. RoccoMarciano

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    I guess Foreman should have figured out a way to make it happen then - at some point in time.

    Just for you of course :lol:
     
  11. mr. magoo

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    Hell, it would have beaten the **** out of watching Holmes fight Bean**** or whatever his name was.
     
  12. RoccoMarciano

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    At least a couple of "names" would have shown up :lol:
     
  13. mr. magoo

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  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Personally, I'd rather come off as having a "glass jaw" against one of the hardest HW hitters of all time than an asinine middle aged man on a boxing message board with a middle school mentality.

    But that's just me. :lol:
     
  15. RoccoMarciano

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    I suppose you think that was a great Foreman punch that floored Moorer? If so, you need to find a favourite internet forum that doesn't include boxing :lol: