Holmes Over Foreman - Who Agrees?

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  1. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes' fought good defensively against Tyson, but his offense was pretty impotent. His jab was almost non-existent, at least until the 4th round, when he started snapping it out. That Holmes probably would have lost to Tyrell Biggs, who had just been squashed by Tyson.
     
  2. MRBILL

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    Holmes was rusty and only in so-so shape physically and mentally in 1988 at age 38.....

    Holmes was much better and sharper in 1992 against "Mercer & Holy" when aged 42 / 43...

    I miss them Ole Tuesday night fights from the crappy USA network that use to air all the old fart fighters hanging on fighting "Hand-Picked" victims in tank towns, etc.......

    ESPN2 and Versus really bites the rod deep down to the base.........

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  3. JohnThomas1

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    Holmes didn't daydream or get careless vs Shavers, he simply got caught :huh

    Like he's getting careless vs a freak like Shavers. He won something like 21 out of 22 rounds he fought with Shavers so he was hardly relaxing or resting in there.

    Holmes is no Benitez, and the fact is they all get caught. It was a beautifully times shot by Shavers, lets give the poor bugger his due.

    Rest assured Holmes is getting caught some vs Foreman, George is way better and more dangerous than anyone Holmes ever beat. This match is no foregone conclusion.
     
  4. Mendoza

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    Holmes > Foreman.
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Holmes achieved more in my opinion. I used to be very confident in picking him to beat Foreman prime-for-prime, too. However, while i stay favor him, i think Foreman has a good chance. I re-watched several Holmes bouts and notice that very often he gets sloppy or into seemingly unnecessary exchanges. Mike Weaver almost completely took over in the 5th i believe. It's impressive that Holmes dug deep and got the win, but i'm not sure how well that would've went vs Foreman..
     
  6. Bummy Davis

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    good post, facts are indeed facts
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good point
     
  8. northernstar83

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    I think nearly everyone would rank Holmes over Foreman
     
  9. clark

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    Ranking is one thing but head to head I see a Foreman victory.
     
  10. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I believe that from 1977 onwards Larry Holmes would have beaten George Foreman at any stage in his career. I also think that Holmes carries a better legacy. This of course is not a knock on George, Larry was just better.
     
  11. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman destroyed the man who had just beaten Ali. Wouldn't that make Foreman the #1HW in the world? It was not known at the time if Ali could defeat Foreman. In fact Ali was the underdog, going into the fight. Holmes struggled against an aging Kenny Norton. Foreman blew Norton out in two rounds.
     
  12. MRBILL

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    Alright, I'll cut Shavers a little slack there in round 7..... But inspite of him landing the big bomb on an "A" grade fighter like Holmes, I was even more impressed how Holmes actually picked himself up and managed to regroup prior to the bell in round 7........ YES! Holmes was wobbly for a bit, but he still had his wits about him........ Shavers pressed Holmes like a rookie with no clue........ Shavers got too carried away and became much too wild after decking Holmes..... Then a few rds later, Ol' Holmes TKO's a gased and bleeding Shavers in round 11....... Good stoppage by referee Davey Pearl........
    :deal:rasta

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  13. MRBILL

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    More of the same for Holmes when he was decked by "The Sniper" Snipes in round 7 in 1981......... Holmes decked hard and gets up to stagger into the ring post, but remains upright on wobbly legs......... Snipes presses like a clueless rookie throwing wild and crazy shots into the night's air, while Holmes gathers himself to begin fighting back and taking control of the round in the final few seconds of the 7th stanza........ IMPRESSIVE performance by Holmes.........

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    Snipes can whine and cry like a baby here in 2009, but Holmes did stagger and land "3" solid rights to Snipes head before the ref halted the beatdown in round 11...... Again, Holmes won........

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