Holmes says he would have beaten Ali in his prime

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  1. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At 08.44 of this video Larry Holmes says he would have beat Ali in his prime, Ali disagrees.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=fLHZj6E1t4I

    Holmes goes on to say he was best of all time, the only guy he says would give him trouble is Jack Johnson.
     
  2. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Id favor him over Ali and Jackson...but wouldnt say hes higher on the HW list than Ali heh...
     
  3. Curtis Lowe

    Curtis Lowe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Poor Larry, still an ******* after all these years. The guy never could understand why the public didn't take to him......it's because you were and still are a dickhead.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sort your avatar out. I can understand a picture of a nice beach view, but not when there's a whale stranded on it.

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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    "****" and "you".
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I think Holmes beats Ali as he was more active, hit harder, had better fundamentals on defense,and had better stamina. Ali kicked Holmes out of his camp because Ali said Holmes was too fast for me.

    Holmes says in 1971, when he was a young fighter, he could block Ali's jab and land his right hand.

    The dinner conversation between Ali, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes is very intersting. Can anyone understand what Ali is saying?
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Holmes would always have given Ali trouble. He would have beaten the early 70's Ali, that I'm confident about. Norton done well against Ali at long range, and backed him against the ropes when he throwing power punches behind the jab. Norton took away Ali's rhythm, even better than Frazier ever did IMO. Holmes does have a sufficient body attack to pose Ali problems.

    Ali in his prime was a brilliant long range boxer. His reflexes were sharper, better stamina, and could move around the ring effortlessey. Holmes would have trouble pinning him down and landing on a regular basis. Timing would be the key.

    Holmes beats the early 70's Ali, but probably loses narrowly to the mid 60's one.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Larry Holmes would have had an excellent chance of beating Ali. In fact, he's one of the very few, just a few, who possibly could have.
     
  10. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Ali...but close.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's certainly possible that he could be Ali, but having said that I also think a couple of fighters could have given Holmes a handful, including Lewis, Tyson and Foreman.
     
  12. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holmes beats Ali prime vs prime only if holmes has a .357 with him,other wise Ali wins easy.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Otherwise Ali wins easy.

    Laughable.
     
  14. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holmes would have had more trouble with the pressure swarmers and good stamina right hands punchers...Dempsey,Louis, Marciano,Tyson,Frazier (Lewis, slower pace but right hand deadly for Larry) Ali would have been troubled by the same bunch(good left hookers also) and Holmes would have been trouble for Ali because of style but Ali would have figured he could hit Holmes with right hands over the jab and done so for a UD15
     
  15. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huh Larry's a great guy. One of the most down to Earth and likeable guys you could ever meet. Just because he has the same mentality that all ATG boxers have makes him a dickhead? All boxers need to have that mentality, they can't go into a fight thinking they're gonna get beat.