Holmes says he would have beaten Ali in his prime

You're just so kind

 

When did Holmes ever face an onslaught like he'd get if Marciano decided to go after it? Answer, never! Marciano was cautious with Walcott, an error on his part (of course Walcott cheating through half of the fight or so might be considered). Walcott was every bit as good as Holmes, and might have hit harder.

About the only thing Holmes ever faced in his career that was like Rocky is Mike Tyson. While Tyson was no Marciano... to say the least, we all seen what an older Holmes got. Just picture a young Holmes against a Marciano that wanted to knock his head off..... any questions? atsch

I think Holmes should have done a jock strap news conference before hand... just to get Rocky going for a 3rd round KO.

 

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It's call being realistic. There are simply more ways for Holmes to win. Marciano won't be outboxing him and it's a long shot knocking him out. What else does Rocky do then?

 

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Boy would I love to be at home with a few beers, a chinese (though slightly early in the morning) and perhaps some scantily clad female company (whilst the missus is out of course ). Nice but wishful thinking.

 

Just noticed you have Holmes at 3, good for you. Do I smell a Holmes nut-hugging

When did Holmes ever get hit with multiple KO blows... except for the Tyson match? You're comparing Rocky with the likes of Holmes competition, that just doesn't cut it, and is quite frankly disrespecful to one on the greatest champions in HW boxing history.

I do see you have Marciano in your top 5... is it so hard for you to believe that Marciano would have knocked Holmes out? Holmes never faced a guy like him.

 

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wot a post hahahaha. "whilst the missus is out" hahaha, loved it!

But really, where is your dedication! The scantily clad should be sitting back waiting for you to get your fix on ESB first!

Gawd, what i was about to post LOL

 

I'm more than happy with my job overall and it's mostly fine. Just going through a period over this past few weeks where I'm up to date with near enough all my work and allot of people are on hols, some off sick etc so the tasks have dried up in comparison to what they usually are.

I'm rarely very snowed under in my place work wise, but much of the time you've more than enough to get on with throught the day, lately that hasn't quite been the case so it's easier to get a bit bored. Though logging on here dulls that somewhat.

 

Tyson's win against Holmes was very commendable, but since when was that version a prime one. Still he's the only one to do that to him so credit where it's due. Niave in the extreme to say that he'd repeat the trick on a very early 80's Holmes, though is it not? Nut-hugging? It's not as if I've placed him as the undisputed greatest ever is it? Oh and quite a lot of people have him in their Top 5 or 6. Are you going to accuse them of the same?

I've Marciano 5th cause of his overall record (some good wins), if he looked better on film (more polished perhaps) and I held him in higher regard than I do in matchups, I'd rank him higher than I do. As it is his relative defficiencies in these others areas evens it out. My placing is reasonably fair I think. I just happen to favour a fair few against him.


Of course it's not impossible that e knocks Larry, just not very likely. :good

 

What is Holmes going to do? Jab him away?

Marciano would get Holmes to fight a Marciano fight... it's in the Holmes nature. Holmes would get pissed and try to slug it out - this spells curtains for Holmes. To state the matter simply, Holmes has a temper, and that would be his downfall against Marciano.

A KO is very likely when it comes to a Holmes/Marciano match.. Holmes would be the guy unable to move at the end.

 

Oops, I just remembered this is an Ali kicking Holmes' ass thread. Sorry about that.

 

The of the matter is that Marciano struggled against quite a number of 'decent' boxers. Note the key word 'decent', not 'very good' or 'great' (Charles, Moore and Walcott were the later of course, but they were old and all three could be inconsistent at HW).


Added to that the fact the Holmes has superior durability to all those guys and a slight edge in ability those are the factors which seal the deal in his favour IMO. It's clear as day that Marciano fared less impressively against good movers. Plus despite Marciano will find it difficult to get to the inside and will be eating heavy jabs and uppercut in his attempts to. Even if he does, Marciano (a 180-odd lb fighter) isn't simply going to overwhelm him nor have any real physical advantages in the clinches for example.