Holmes says he would have beaten Ali in his prime

Norton was undoubtably well into decline vs Holmes. He did however fight superbly vs Larry. Eddie Futch always said older fighters often had one great performance left in them when people thought they were past it, maybe this was Ken's.

 

his wins over zanon, bobick and young were right before lary, am i not right?

 

How did you score the Young fight? Well, have you even seen it? Sometimes we need to go deeper than mere stats and actually look at what we are debating. Young was an awkward bugger tho, admittedly.

 

i heard it was a close fight, if u want to say he lost so what, he beat ali the third time for sure.

 

Speaking of Young. How did you score his fight with Ali?

 

I've never sat thru the whole thing to score it lol. Bit boring.

 

I mention it because it's relative to our topic - whether Norton was declined, peak or whatever you want to claim. I can't for the life of me follow your angle above. You used the Young fight/win as leverage that Norton was in great nick, i simplu questioned the scoring.

 

Ali beat Young. Norton beat Young. Larry beat Norton and I think its perhaps his best win. IMHO.

 

This thread hasn't got swept away yet?

OK, to end this, if Holmes said it it must be gospel. Can this be buried now?????????

 

Larry was going to fight Coetzee though, it was signed and all and was gonna be a huge pay day, but the fight got canned about a month before fightnight. It was gonna take place on something like June 6, 1984. That's the reason why Larry only made 1 defence in 1984, not because he got lazy. The reason he didn't fight Young, was because Ocasio beat Young, so Larry fought Ocasio. He fought Snipes in 81 and not Coetzee is because Renaldo beat Coetzee.

I really don't feel like getting into this again.

Here is the Holmes-Coetzee poster:

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Yeah I remember you mentioning the Coetzee fight being signed when Coetzee backed out. My only point was that weather it be Coetzee, Page, Dokes, or Thomas, Holmes could have fought some additional good fighters later in his career.

.......That's all.........

 

Holmes should have retired after the Cooney fight. His last three years as heavyweight champion didn't do much for his legacy. It made him richer and inflated his pro record, but that's about it!

 

Guess not

JT's new avatar is wearing way too much

 

Hey - are those tits real, or not?

 

Best for best-I take Ali(let's say the Ali that stopped...Cleveland Williams...).Actually...I could understand Tyson biting off Holmes' ear...I also remember some of Holmes fairly unimpressive fights when he was allegedly in his prime(pretty inexperienced Tim Witherspoon and Mike Weaver,for example).Holmes-only-made it to where he was because Ali took him in as his sparring partner..in case,I missed any comments regarding Holmes's loss to Duane Bobick in the '72 Olympic trials-excuussse me.I thought that only I remembered it..but you can check it out on youtube.